Mal: I call you back? Wash: No, Mal. You didn't. Zoe: I take full responsibility, cap.

'Out Of Gas'


Spike's Bitches 44: It's about the rules having changed.  

[NAFDA] Spike-centric discussion. Lusty, lewd (only occasionally crude), risqué (and frisqué), bawdy (Oh, lawdy!), flirty ('cuz we're purty), raunchy talk inside. Caveat lector.


-t - Apr 09, 2009 6:26:50 pm PDT #6248 of 30000
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Well, it's not kosher but if it's not a kosher restaurant it wouldn't be anyway. I had some shrimp today, myself, though I am observing the ban on leavened bread.


-t - Apr 09, 2009 6:41:13 pm PDT #6249 of 30000
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Probably not the best marketing choice, though. Limits your customers unnecessarily.


omnis_audis - Apr 09, 2009 6:54:42 pm PDT #6250 of 30000
omnis, pursue. That's an order from a shy woman who can use M-16. - Shir

Ugg. The wild fires are putting a ton of crud in the air. Giving me a bit of ick. Blargh. The apartment is warm, but I don't want to turn on a/c or open windows and let in the crud.


DCJensen - Apr 09, 2009 7:40:04 pm PDT #6251 of 30000
All is well that ends in pizza.

Attention: Peanut butter toast is the best. Breakfast. Evar.

Yum. I like to add a bit of cinnamon sugar or sliced banana sometimes.

Sometimes I like peanut butter on toast dipped in hot chocolate.

I also like the occasional Peanut Butter and bacon on toast.

I don't go the full Elvis, tho.


javachik - Apr 09, 2009 7:55:53 pm PDT #6252 of 30000
Our wings are not tired.

P-C, the note about your uncle might've been a throwaway line, but your family making judgments on your life (and you feeling stress to adjust your life to decrease the tension)is a running theme, so I took it seriously.

You've got a good career going, and you're doing fine. But I am awfully serious when I say that real adulthood is being able to sit down with your family, eye to eye, and firmly assert your own agenda, not merely acquiesce to theirs. You've got a lot going for you, but you constantly undermine yourself because you view yourself through a family-tinted prism. Take away the kaleidoscope, be honest with yourself and it will work out.


beth b - Apr 09, 2009 7:57:28 pm PDT #6253 of 30000
oh joy! Oh Rapture ! I have a brain!

Best peanut butter breakfast: (there are many fine breakfasts in this world -- so they must be categorized) Chunky peanut butter on a toast cinnamon raisin bagel


Fay - Apr 09, 2009 8:27:33 pm PDT #6254 of 30000
"Fuck Western ideologically-motivated gender identification!" Sulu gasped, and came.

Java, I don't entirely disagree, but I do think that what you're describing is a very recent and culturally-specific definition of adulthood. It is not the definition held in great big swathes of the modern world today. And, sure, P-C's American as an American thing, but that doesn't neccesarily include the kind of WASPy distancing of family and prioritising of self & one's personal desires and aspirations over responsibility to family and community that has become common currency in much of the West. That isn't the default setting of normal adulthood.

I mean, yeah, I think we all share P-C's frustration at the expectations his family put on him over his marriage and his car and his job, but this doesn't mean P-C's being a pussy, or being a child. He's dealing with conflicting paradigms of what it means to be a successful adult and a good person. Buggered if I know which way I'd jump.


Polter-Cow - Apr 09, 2009 8:32:23 pm PDT #6255 of 30000
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Okay, I think I need a hug from javachik and a hug from Fay, and whoever hugs me harder wins.


javachik - Apr 09, 2009 8:49:13 pm PDT #6256 of 30000
Our wings are not tired.

Ha, P-C.

Fay, I think you're right, but my comments were specific (originally) to P-C equating adulthood with a barometer (making $100k) that his uncle set forth. I have issues with anyone who sets "adulthood" in relationship with one's ability to make money. That's why I was (and am) emphasizing another view of adulthood.

ETA: You know what I just realized, going back and re-reading the posts? That I think I am resentful (if that's even the right word) that instead of being able to talk about careers, cars, life, whatever directly with P-C, it ends up actually being a discussion (usually) with the board acting as counter to his family. It's really predictable. And since I am not big on people complaining about stuff they're unwilling to change, I get unduly impatient.

So, I will bite my tongue the next time the topic comes up because as much as I want to offer advice (since I like P-C, and he works in my industry, so I am familiar with his struggles), I get too frustrated when I am arguing with his family and that's a bigass waste of my very limited time.


Polter-Cow - Apr 09, 2009 9:14:53 pm PDT #6257 of 30000
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

I shouldn't have mentioned my uncle. Honest to God, when I brought this up in the first place, my family had nothing to do with it. They still don't. I'm trying to work out what I want to do with my job/career.