(X-posted with Natter)

Calling all hiveminders!

(Yes, just got back, and already need you. See how my life work?)

There's a Talmudic quote that says "we don't see things the way they are, but the way we are". I already asked some people about it, including our wonderful Nilly, but nobody seems to know exactly where it's from. And I googled and I googled till I couldn't google anymore. Now, can any one of you give me the reference to this quote? Anyone with Jewish orthodox relatives, by any chance?

I am awake. I have been up all night playing poker with friends (including date girl). I have to be up in two hours to take Drew to LAX. I will probably just stay up (though I have set an alarm just in case).

{{insomniacs}} It took forever for me to get to sleep, but I stayed in bed anyway thinking rest was better than nothing.

{{Shir}} How very upsetting. Feeling safe shouldn't have to be a rarity.

black coffee

Shir, the quote you mentioned seems to be attributed to Anais Nin. [link]

eta: and I see that amych found the same thing responding in Natter

{{{{{Shir}}}}} it's good to see your pixels. What a sad, sad, shameful thing those attacks were. I hope that your friends can find a way to feel safe, along with the rest of the LGBT community there.

I did actually get some sleep - but as it has to make up for what I miss on the weekends I work, I'm sitting here with my eyes closed, typing. Occasionally I open them to check that it's not as badly spelled as a drunk post would be.

Sympathies to all those who need sleep, and here's hoping the insomnia fairy will leave y'all alone tomorrow.

{{{Shir}}} We're particularly aware of the bombings, on account of The Girl being from Tel Aviv - a lot of her family is still there - and (obviously) being gay. A really horrific situation.

So I see the Sunday night insomnia is a global thing. I woke up every hour last night. Now, of course, I want to sleep all day. The brain is a curious thing.

The gronk is so mighty that when I put the cats' food dishes down for them, I had to go back and check that I had given them the right ones.

Timelies.

Shir, I went to bed just after the tackle hug. Clearly that is why the gods kept me awake, to see your pixels.

IOinsomniaN- seems NPR had two reports on sleep studies. One about sleep apnia, and how a custom fitted mouth guard thing can work as good as surgery or the machine thingy (sorry, forget the name, it was in between snooze bar slaps), and the second report was about some new study that suggests as we grow older, it's perfectly reasonable to have a sleep pattern that doesn't sleep all the way through. That is all I recall. I'm sure there will be links on the site later today when the morning show if off the air.

ION. um. OW. legs still hurt. I believe this is customary for day after first real exercise. This only reinforces that I prefer pleasure to pain, and I do not derive pleasure from pain. Why can't the exercise process be closer to the euphoria of orgasm I ask? I think it would solve the obesity problems. Can we fix this evolutionary oversight? Now? k. thnks.

And now I must go to work.

ok, I lied a little bit. I checked one more link before getting ready for work. And I felt the need to come in here and give Sean a hard time (tongue in cheek of course. I do *not* want to dissuade him from spending time with new girl!). Here it goes :: cracks knuckles ::

I went over to Conquer Club to see if it was my turn to play on any of the games, and I can't help but notice it's Sean's turn on ALL of them. I see how it is! Once ya get a lady friend, you can't spend time with us anymore. Jeesh man.

I do not derive pleasure from pain.

FWIW, masochists don't derive pleasure from *all* pain. If a masochist stubs her toe, she's going to yelp and swear and not enjoy it one bit.

IJS.

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