Mal: You tell me right now, little Kaylee, you really think you can do this? Kaylee: Sure. Yeah. I think so. 'Sides, if I mess up, not like you'll be able to yell at me.

'Bushwhacked'


Spike's Bitches 44: It's about the rules having changed.  

[NAFDA] Spike-centric discussion. Lusty, lewd (only occasionally crude), risqué (and frisqué), bawdy (Oh, lawdy!), flirty ('cuz we're purty), raunchy talk inside. Caveat lector.


StuntHusband - Jul 13, 2009 9:55:37 am PDT #16448 of 30000
Electromagnetic candy! - Stark

I consider Rose Gamgee nee Cotton to be significant, if only (like Arwen) because she's an inspiration; she inspires Sam (and by extension, the other 3 Hobbits) to persevere.

Eowyn is the only female character to *act* - even Galadriel is just window-dressing. Her little display with the Mirror was entirely selfish: by rejecting the temptation of the Ring, she bought her way back into Uttermost West (she had been banished for disobedience and not stopping the Kinslaughter). The help she gives the Fellowship could have been done by Celeborn - it wasn't *particular* to her. Eowyn was *particular*.

Arwen was the prize Aragorn won for destroying Sauron; Elrond said, "Nope - not letting a rootless vagabond marry MY immortal gorgeous daughter. Become King, you tramp!"

So he did. And then she spat in dad's eye and sacrificed her immortality (and gave it to Frodo).

There are other minor named female characters - Lobelia Sackville-Baggins, Goldberry, Mistress Ioreth of the Houses of Healing - but really, LotR is a Boy's Best Adventure tale.


Jessica - Jul 13, 2009 9:56:53 am PDT #16449 of 30000
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

I consider Rose Gamgee nee Cotton to be significant

Oh, DUH. Yes, she's important, even if she's only in about 5 pages out of several thousand.


-t - Jul 13, 2009 9:57:08 am PDT #16450 of 30000
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Lobelia Sackville-Baggins?

Shelob?

(this was x-posty, I was trying to think of a 4th)


sumi - Jul 13, 2009 9:57:20 am PDT #16451 of 30000
Art Crawl!!!

What about Luthian? Or Aragorn's mom?


StuntHusband - Jul 13, 2009 9:58:24 am PDT #16452 of 30000
Electromagnetic candy! - Stark

Farmer whatsisname's wife with the mushrooms? Goldberry?

Goldberry is Bombadil's wife; you're thinking of Mrs. Maggot, "a Queen amongst Hobbits" :) I don't think she's given a first name.

I keep meaning to memorize the Dwarven poem re: Moria, because the flow of the language is so gorgeous in that.

The World was Young

The poem I'm slowly memorizing is from the History of Middle-earth, volume 3 - "Lays of Beleriand". The Lay of Larethian - 3223 lines. I have 180 committed to memory; the rest just won't stick. The best parts, of course, describe Morgoth:

"Far in the north hills of stone In caverns black there was a Throne By flame encircled..."


Toddson - Jul 13, 2009 10:00:27 am PDT #16453 of 30000
Friends don't let friends read "Atlas Shrugged"

yeah yeah - 3223 lines of epic poem, 180 memorized.

But do you remember birthdays?


Connie Neil - Jul 13, 2009 10:00:30 am PDT #16454 of 30000
brillig

I love Lobelia! I wonder if Sackville-Baggins was a reference to the Sackville-Wests.


StuntHusband - Jul 13, 2009 10:01:41 am PDT #16455 of 30000
Electromagnetic candy! - Stark

Mmm...Shelob. I never think of her as a "female character", because she's a gigantic spider-demon. But you're right, she *is* hugely important.

Luthian isn't in Lord of the Rings. :)

However, you're ALSO very correct about Gilraen mother of Aragorn; though she doesn't appear in LotR, her behavior totally informs Aragorn's early life - and is so tragic.

"I gave Hope to the Dúnedain, I have kept no hope for myself."


Connie Neil - Jul 13, 2009 10:02:04 am PDT #16456 of 30000
brillig

The world is grey, the mountains old,
The forge's fire is ashen-cold;
No harp is wrung, no hammer falls:
The darkness dwells in Durin's halls;
The shadow lies upon his tomb
In Moria, in Khazad-dum.

I shivered the first time I read that.


StuntHusband - Jul 13, 2009 10:03:01 am PDT #16457 of 30000
Electromagnetic candy! - Stark

But do you remember birthdays?

Except for very rare exceptions, no - that's what Google Calendar is for. (The exceptions are holidays - mine is April 1, my sister's is July 4, my mom's is Kitty Hawk Day - I got my maternal grandfather's birthday wrong by a week MY ENTIRE LIFE.)

My brain is full of *useless* trivia, nothing *useful*. :)