Looks like civilization finally caught up with us.

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Spike's Bitches 44: It's about the rules having changed.  

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Vortex - Jul 01, 2009 6:19:41 am PDT #14782 of 30000
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

acetaminophen has benefits that ibuprofen doesn't, like a fever reducer. And, the fact is that ibuprofen doesn't work for some people, like me. Advil doesn't do shit for my pain, but two extra strength tylenol, and I'm good to go.


Amy - Jul 01, 2009 6:24:31 am PDT #14783 of 30000
Because books.

Since the acetaminophen component of those drugs is what's at issue -- not the narcotic component -- it seems that doctors could just prescribe the single-component narcotic w/o the acetaminophen.

Exactly. That's what my mom takes now.


Seska (the Watcher-in-Training) - Jul 01, 2009 6:28:02 am PDT #14784 of 30000
"We're all stories, in the end. Just make it a good one, eh?"

Since the acetaminophen component of those drugs is what's at issue -- not the narcotic component -- it seems that doctors could just prescribe the single-component narcotic w/o the acetaminophen.

Is the other ingredient available separately for doctors to prescribe? (I've never understood the painkillers used in the US - different ones are generally prescribed here.) I used to take a formulation of dihydrocodeine and acetaminophen, but it gave me headaches. Taking the dihyd. separately from the acetaminophen, then adding the acet. in smaller quantities if I need it, always seemed to work better. I've had the headaches with other narcotic painkillers when combined with acetaminophen. Over here, I'm fairly sure there are doctors who prefer to prescribe the ones that include acet. because they think people are afraid of the effects and therefore less likely to overdose. Of course, the reverse is what's actually happening. We've recently had co-proxamol, a popular combination narcotic painkiller, banned to prevent accidents. That's annoyed a whole lot of people for whom other medications don't work.


Hil R. - Jul 01, 2009 6:29:52 am PDT #14785 of 30000
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

Aceteminophen is available here in drugstores without a prescription as Tylenol.


Vortex - Jul 01, 2009 6:32:08 am PDT #14786 of 30000
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

They're talking about reducing the maximum dose per pil from 500 mg to 375. Which is fucking stupid. What will happen is that people will start taking three of the "regular" strength pills, therefore getting 175mg MORE than the old dose. Idiots!


Steph L. - Jul 01, 2009 6:34:21 am PDT #14787 of 30000
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

My dad was one of the people inadvertently OD-ing on acetaminophen. He takes percocet for diabetic neuropathy, and was also taking Tylenol PM for insomnia. He didn't realize that percocet has acetaminophen (or didn't realize that acetaminophen -- which was on the percocet bottle label -- is the generic name for Tylenol).

Nothing bad happened, as far as I know, but when I realized he was taking the 2 drugs, I told him to just get benadryl, since that's the sleep-making part of Tylenol PM anyway.


Seska (the Watcher-in-Training) - Jul 01, 2009 6:35:02 am PDT #14788 of 30000
"We're all stories, in the end. Just make it a good one, eh?"

Aceteminophen is available here in drugstores without a prescription as Tylenol.

Yeah, here too (different brand name). It's the others that are treated differently in each country. Last time I was in New York I went looking for codeine for my migraines, and was told it's prescription-only. Next visit, I'm taking my own (plus a copy of the prescription!)...


Steph L. - Jul 01, 2009 6:37:41 am PDT #14789 of 30000
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

What will happen is that people will start taking three of the "regular" strength pills, therefore getting 175mg MORE than the old dose.

Do you (not just Vortex; the general "you") think that more people ignore the limits given on the bottle of an OTC drug, or adhere to them? Because I know a ton of people who REFUSE to ever take more of any OTC drug than the bottle says, even when I point out that when the same drug is prescribed, the dose is 2x that amount. Like ibuprofen.


Vortex - Jul 01, 2009 6:38:09 am PDT #14790 of 30000
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

Yeah, here too (different brand name)

Paracetamol! I remember this because when I was in london, a little boy told me a joke (why are there no headaches in the jungle? Because parrots eat em all (say it fast) )and he was very upset that I didn't laugh because I didn't know what paracetamol was!


Seska (the Watcher-in-Training) - Jul 01, 2009 6:42:52 am PDT #14791 of 30000
"We're all stories, in the end. Just make it a good one, eh?"

Because parrots eat em all (say it fast) )and he was very upset that I didn't laugh because I didn't know what paracetamol was!

Heh. Ancient joke. Actually paracetamol isn't a brand name - it's another version of the chemical name.

I argued with The Girl, who is not British, about this for years. She refused to believe that acetaminophen and paracetamol were the same thing. She'd been importing Tylenol for years, claiming it worked better than cheap paracetamol from the pharmacy down the road. She was most upset when I eventually proved to her they were exactly the same thing. (I nearly had to demonstrate with actual chemistry.)