Ah, the Obesity Scare(TM): making "malnourished" the new "healthy."

Okay, I'm not saying that juice is the root of all evils and parents who let their kids have juice boxes are abusive, but really, the vast majority of juice is nothing but sugar water. It's not nourishment.

Oh, my obesity rant isn't specifically juice-box-directed; it's just that in general, "malnourished" is becoming the new "healthy." Particularly for kids, which scares the crap out of me.

actually, it wasn't even juice boxes. it was 1/3 pear juice, 2/3 water. because I couldn't send milk. and she would go the whole day without drinking water. She's not there anymore - though I heard through channels that they've changed their position on what's available.

Jessica - heaps of admiration on you and Amy for figuring out a system.

Particularly for kids, which scares the crap out of me.

This I agree with - there's even vague rumblings going on now saying maybe we should encourage toddlers to drink low-fat milk (instead of whole, which is what's currently recommended). You know, because it's not like fats are necessary for brain development or anything.

You know, because it's not like fats are necessary for brain development or anything.

Oh, christ. Kids need FULL FAT EVERYTHING until they're at least two, for just that reason.

I think growing up juice was a morning thing, it was expensive so we didn't drink it any time except for breakfast.

It made it easier to give up with diabetes

there's even vague rumblings going on now saying maybe we should encourage toddlers to drink low-fat milk.

oh wow. ::hammer drops::

there was a mom in our class at that school worried about the kids' cholesterol levels.

I kept Em off juice for a looong time mainly to protect her teeth, not anything to do with her weight. I'm overly paranoid about rotten teeth.

You know, because it's not like fats are necessary for brain development or anything.

But Jessica, having a fat child would be the worst fate ever!

I kept Em off juice for a looong time mainly to protect her teeth, not anything to do with her weight. I'm overly paranoid about rotten teeth.

This is especially true if you let them drink juice from a bottle, but it's also true for milk from a bottle. And yeah, I was a little weird about the kids' teeth, too, because as a family ours aren't great to start.

Every time, wait another five minutes, until you're not going in until he's been crying for twenty minutes, for instance.

This is what my friends did with their twins and it worked generally pretty well. They are actually insanely good now, at 2, with going to bed. They, esp the girl, just love their cribs!

Although the other day at naptime the boy did not want to go to sleep. He threw everything from his crib into his sleeping sister's crib (while laughing loudly) thus waking her up and causing too short naps and much fussiness later in the day.