I thought last week's Ugly Betty is the last new episode.

Some of the time, anyway. Heh.

I do know some kids who it would likely not work for.

I rarely take something away right at that moment, it is usually something in the future.

I think Em's too young to see past right now. As she gets older, we'll probably work that in.

I really like the stoplight model, too. But again, once she's older.

Yeah, I think kids have to have some comprehension of future before it really works effectively. Without that, it is too abstract to have any meaning.

Hell, even with it, some of us still go fuckit.

Hell, even with it, some of us still go fuckit.

I frequently get a case of the "fuckits".

For when aurelia is around -- if it actually is in the 20s tomorrow and not a total snowpocalypse, what do you think about Singha for dinner? Or we could do Mexican again.

Eve is still not very well able to deal with either punishments or future rewards, and she's nearly 4.5. We don't, frankly, have a very good technique for her, aside from giving lots of attention even when she is at her worst (especially when she is at her worst).

Both my kids went through a phase of hitting themselves when thwarted at about 18 months (Peter is still there, but then than a few weeks ago). Interesting that it's a persisting thing with Eth kids.

Either is good with me. Is Singha enough of a lunch standby for you that you'd rather go for Mexican?

I think, but am not sure, that they did this routine with D for a while before it was actually effective. I don't know. If it was something born out of daycare, it probably started 2 years ago. But it may not have. All I know is that the big rewards have been power rangers and optimus prime, not wiggles stuff, which was the twos.

I only get Singha once a week at most, so I'm still quite happy to go there. It also tends to be really dead in the evening. But Mexican has margaritas, so...