We use the latest in scientific technology and state-of-the-art weaponry and you, if I understand correctly, poke them with a sharp stick.

Dr. Walsh ,'Potential'


Natter 56: ...we need the writers.  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Liese S. - Jan 21, 2008 7:18:36 am PST #4503 of 10001
"Faded like the lilac, he thought."

Oh, Megan, that'll be a great trip.

The only thing is there will be a lot a lot of driving. Those places are not close to each other.

The SO & I really love Moab. It's a great little spot, the park is easy to access and you can choose how much exertion you want to spend. We got a great photo of Double Arch there just in the golden light of sunset. Remember if you're taking sunrise or sunset pictures, don't forget to turn around and take pictures of what's lit by the sun, not just the sun itself.

On reflection, I have not been to most of those parks although the SO and our photography buddy iamdave.com have been, extensively. I know that he really loves Zion, and thinks it worthwhile.

Lodging is a bit difficult as many of the towns neighboring the parks are not large. Allot enough time for driving for meals, or pack a lunch. The SO & iamdave.com recently did Mesa Verde and really enjoyed it. I'll ask them for more feedback tonight.


Dana - Jan 21, 2008 7:21:59 am PST #4504 of 10001
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

Okay, so videos of full Gareth songs downloadable here

I swear, the awesome is going to kill me. If you guys don't hear from me again, know that I died happy.


Liese S. - Jan 21, 2008 7:22:46 am PST #4505 of 10001
"Faded like the lilac, he thought."

Hee.

I'm glad I asked.


megan walker - Jan 21, 2008 7:28:46 am PST #4506 of 10001
"What kind of magical sunshine and lollipop world do you live in? Because you need to be medicated."-SFist

The only thing is there will be a lot a lot of driving. Those places are not close to each other.

The real problem is Bryce and Zion, which are only two hours apart, too far to use one as a base. I can't see any way around two nights here, drive a few hours, two nights at the next place, etc. I don't mind changing places like that, but it might be too much moving around for my friends. I love driving. And my father made us do crazy road trips when I was younger (like SLC to SLC in 2 weeks via Calgary, Vancouver, and Victoria!) so I'm used to that.

None of us have seen any of these places except the Grand Canyon.


msbelle - Jan 21, 2008 7:28:55 am PST #4507 of 10001
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

Doctor of Osteopathy. They have training in both Western and Eastern treatment.

huh, so now to decide if I want that or an MD at the same practice.


Jesse - Jan 21, 2008 7:31:04 am PST #4508 of 10001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

I could be off, but it's something like that, for sure.


Hil R. - Jan 21, 2008 7:37:19 am PST #4509 of 10001
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

Osteopathic medicine is a branch of medicine based on the premise that the primary role of the physician is to facilitate the body's inherent ability to heal itself.

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Ginger - Jan 21, 2008 7:42:18 am PST #4510 of 10001
"It didn't taste good. It tasted soooo horrible. It tasted like....a vodka martini." - Matilda

Osteopaths don't really have the same level of education as MDs. Their philosophy is more holistic, which many people like, but there's some criticism that they're less likely to prescribe medicine or surgery, which can be good or lethal. I would think that being in a practice with an MD would mitigate that.


hippocampus - Jan 21, 2008 7:42:43 am PST #4511 of 10001
not your mom's socks.

--Zion seems less interesting somehow. The scenic drive has been closed to traffic except for a free shuttle and Zion seems to be something that can be done relatively quickly (as opposed to Bryce Canyon where the lodge seems a bit nicer and sunrise photos the thing to do). Is this right?

We had the opposite experience, and I would love to go back to Bryce for a longer time than the 2 hours we were there. The colors and formations are amazing. Same with Moab. (also, never having been to the GC, a stay at the main lodge is on my wishlist)

But I'ma speak for Zion as it has a major place in my heart. From memory - 14 years back - There are good campgrounds and some fine affordable motels. there are formations like Moab, and deep canyons (one they use as a concert venue). Colors range from roses and pinks all the way on up through granite, and the top of the park is a huge (4wd) plain of green - you wouldn't know what was just below you if you hadn't seen it yourself.

They have drumming concerts in one canyon. There are some lovely (though not legal - or warm, right now) swimming holes.

And then there is the Narrows. One of the most spectacular places I've been in the southwest. [link] no idea if it's open in winter.


msbelle - Jan 21, 2008 7:54:33 am PST #4512 of 10001
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

The Dr. office is closed. poop.