Wesley: We were fighting on opposite sides, but it was the same war. Fred: but you hated her…didn't you? Wesley: It's not always about holding hands.

'Shells'


Natter 56: ...we need the writers.  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Trudy Booth - Jan 18, 2008 10:57:29 am PST #4076 of 10001
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

How long did it take him?

As long as it took me to go pee.

That kid should be an assassin.

Get in, get out, shred the evidence.


JZ - Jan 18, 2008 11:02:06 am PST #4077 of 10001
See? I gave everybody here an opportunity to tell me what a bad person I am and nobody did, because I fuckin' rule.

Ah, so it wasn't so much a random tiger attack as natural selection in action, then.

Well, she also ate part of a trainer's arm a year earlier. So, while they were definitely looking to Darwin themselves, the tiger in question had already proven herself ready and willing to attack (and eat) humans with considerably less provocation than these nitwits gave her, so IMO the zoo still bears a metric fuckload of responsibility. Last week's SF Bay Guardian had a cover article by a journalist whose stepfather was a wild game enthusiast and amateur refuge-keeper with interesting, if fairly depressing, observations about Siberian tigers, their strengths and abilities, and a lot of stuff the zoo damn well should have known about already.


Trudy Booth - Jan 18, 2008 11:08:43 am PST #4078 of 10001
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

I'd read that the trainer was feeding her incorrectly and the tiger basically thought her arm was food.


tommyrot - Jan 18, 2008 11:13:46 am PST #4079 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

the tiger basically thought her arm was food.

In a way, it is....


Jesse - Jan 18, 2008 11:24:09 am PST #4080 of 10001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

I did the couple of things I had forgotten I had to do today, but it's still not even 4:30? Argh.


Stephanie - Jan 18, 2008 11:26:52 am PST #4081 of 10001
Trust my rage

I feel bad that the tiger paid with her life for the stupidity of a bunch of dumb, drunk, high kids. I guess I feel bad that the one kid also paid for his stupidity with his life, but at least it was his *own* stupidity and not someone else's.


hippocampus - Jan 18, 2008 11:27:10 am PST #4082 of 10001
not your mom's socks.

As long as it took me to go pee.

oy, owen. give your mom a break.


Matt the Bruins fan - Jan 18, 2008 11:33:34 am PST #4083 of 10001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

I suppose it also has to be looked at from the angle that the tiger doesn't necessarily know the difference between drunken fools taunting it and, say, a small child throwing a noisy attention-attracting tantrum near its enclosure. Which could easily happen almost any day.

This not being Tatiana's first attack on a human being does say to me that putting her down was most likely for the best.


tommyrot - Jan 18, 2008 11:34:30 am PST #4084 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

I feel bad that the tiger paid with her life for the stupidity of a bunch of dumb, drunk, high kids. I guess I feel bad that the one kid also paid for his stupidity with his life, but at least it was his *own* stupidity and not someone else's.

Wasn't the kid who died the kid who wasn't tormenting the tiger? and who tried to get the tiger to stop attacking the other kids when it turned on him?

Not really sure if that's the case....


Tom Scola - Jan 18, 2008 11:34:58 am PST #4085 of 10001
Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward.

What are people doing this weekend?