Or maybe you could just be Buffy, he'll see your amazing heart, and he'll fall in love with you.

Xander ,'Get It Done'


Natter 56: ...we need the writers.  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Jesse - Jan 18, 2008 11:24:09 am PST #4080 of 10001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

I did the couple of things I had forgotten I had to do today, but it's still not even 4:30? Argh.


Stephanie - Jan 18, 2008 11:26:52 am PST #4081 of 10001
Trust my rage

I feel bad that the tiger paid with her life for the stupidity of a bunch of dumb, drunk, high kids. I guess I feel bad that the one kid also paid for his stupidity with his life, but at least it was his *own* stupidity and not someone else's.


hippocampus - Jan 18, 2008 11:27:10 am PST #4082 of 10001
not your mom's socks.

As long as it took me to go pee.

oy, owen. give your mom a break.


Matt the Bruins fan - Jan 18, 2008 11:33:34 am PST #4083 of 10001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

I suppose it also has to be looked at from the angle that the tiger doesn't necessarily know the difference between drunken fools taunting it and, say, a small child throwing a noisy attention-attracting tantrum near its enclosure. Which could easily happen almost any day.

This not being Tatiana's first attack on a human being does say to me that putting her down was most likely for the best.


tommyrot - Jan 18, 2008 11:34:30 am PST #4084 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

I feel bad that the tiger paid with her life for the stupidity of a bunch of dumb, drunk, high kids. I guess I feel bad that the one kid also paid for his stupidity with his life, but at least it was his *own* stupidity and not someone else's.

Wasn't the kid who died the kid who wasn't tormenting the tiger? and who tried to get the tiger to stop attacking the other kids when it turned on him?

Not really sure if that's the case....


Tom Scola - Jan 18, 2008 11:34:58 am PST #4085 of 10001
Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward.

What are people doing this weekend?


Stephanie - Jan 18, 2008 11:43:07 am PST #4086 of 10001
Trust my rage

tommy, I think you are right. I mean, I think the kid that died was there, but I'm not sure he was the main tormentor. I guess I see this as a situation with three parties - the kids, the zoo, and the tiger. Of the three, the tiger was acting appropriately for who she was. The zoo and the kids were wrong but the tiger was the one that got killed for acting according to her instincts.

I think the officers that shot the tiger did the right thing and really had no choice. It just bugs me how the tiger paid for the lapses/dumb decisions of others.


Stephanie - Jan 18, 2008 11:43:44 am PST #4087 of 10001
Trust my rage

Tomorrow, Joe, Ellie, and I are headed to the beach, a birthday party, and packing. SUnday, Ellie and I are flying to see my parents.


askye - Jan 18, 2008 11:46:16 am PST #4088 of 10001
Thrive to spite them

I'm deep cleaning the house and going out to buy an interview outfit!!!

And then I have Monday off and it's an interview and then probably chill out and try not obsessive over if I blew it.


Allyson - Jan 18, 2008 11:47:15 am PST #4089 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

This not being Tatiana's first attack on a human being does say to me that putting her down was most likely for the best.

I don't agree. This was not a domesticated animal, but something wild and enormously dangerous to humans by design. Humans chose to put this animal on display, and once that happened, a contract is in place between the humans and the animal that no harm should come to it, period.

It's all on the zoo, here. The animal bears no responsibility.