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Buffista Movies 6: lies and videotape

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Frankenbuddha - Apr 10, 2008 8:48:10 am PDT #4991 of 10000

"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

Like how deeply stupid Naomi Watts' character is in Eastern Promises ?

I think the stupidity was inherent in the screenplay (which was not Cronenberg's), because pretty much if she doesn't do the initial stupid thing, there is no movie. Yeah, her character was my one big problem with the film since she's more of a plot device than a character. There was so much other stuff I liked that I didn't wreck my enjoyment of the movie; mostly I just felt bad for Naomi Watts having such a thankless role.

Actually, apart from Geena Davis in The Fly (and maybe Jennifer Jason Leigh in eXistenZ), most of the women in Cronenberg's movies have either been fantasy figures or plot mechanisms (usually both), or seriously secondary characters.

Hayden - Apr 10, 2008 8:49:52 am PDT #4992 of 10000

aka "The artist formerly known as Corwood Industries."

mostly I just felt bad for Naomi Watts having such a thankless role

That's kind of her thing, isn't it?

Jessica - Apr 10, 2008 8:58:04 am PDT #4993 of 10000

And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Jennifer Jason Leigh in eXistenZ

I found it very difficult to tell if my extreme dislike of that one was JJL's fault or Cronenberg's. Either way, it was not my beautiful cake.

Polter-Cow - Apr 10, 2008 9:08:58 am PDT #4994 of 10000

What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

I really liked eXistenZ.

Or perhaps I just want to randomly scream, "eXistenZ is PAUSED!"

Frankenbuddha - Apr 10, 2008 9:11:46 am PDT #4995 of 10000

"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

The last line of eXistenZ made me laugh like a drain in the theater when I first saw it.

It may have been the movie, Jess, because I thought that was the least affected acting I've seen from JJL in I can't remember how long (maybe The Big Picture). Though if it's JJL herself that sticks in your craw, than it might well have just been her.

DavidS - Apr 10, 2008 9:13:40 am PDT #4996 of 10000

"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

I love JJL in The Big Picture. I bought the video just to have her student film.

Also love her in Miami Blues.

Hayden - Apr 10, 2008 9:17:36 am PDT #4997 of 10000

aka "The artist formerly known as Corwood Industries."

Miami Blues, yes. I liked her in The Hudsucker Proxy, but that wasn't exactly unaffected acting.

Amy - Apr 10, 2008 9:25:45 am PDT #4998 of 10000

Because books.

What, no love for baby JJL in Fast Times?

Hayden - Apr 10, 2008 9:26:35 am PDT #4999 of 10000

aka "The artist formerly known as Corwood Industries."

I only have eyes for Phoebe Cates.

lisah - Apr 10, 2008 9:30:32 am PDT #5000 of 10000

Punishingly Intricate

I only have eyes for Phoebe Cates.

Years and years and years ago (I was an undergrad) some guy told me I looked like Phoebe Cates and I was, like, "Huh? From Lace & Lace II???"

For some reason, it didn't register with me that he was maybe thinking of her from Fast Times. Although, it's possible I hadn't seen it at that point either.

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