Absolutely. It is clear that Precious Moments devotees don't define art.
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§ ita § - Mar 27, 2008 6:38:19 am PDT #4757 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Fred Pete - Mar 27, 2008 9:20:17 am PDT #4758 of 10000
Ann, that's a ferret.
I'd calll Precious Moments figurines "art" by the definition I tossed out a couple days ago. They're definitely created for a non-functional purpose.
But my definition is decidedly intent-based, very broad, and definitely allows for "bad art."
Volans - Mar 27, 2008 10:57:10 am PDT #4759 of 10000
move out and draw fire
You know, when you are 500+ posts behind in Movies, it's probably best to just give up.
And, as in all things, I am the One True Authority on What Is Art? (Which does include many functional things, but not Precious Moments).
Laga - Mar 27, 2008 11:00:16 am PDT #4760 of 10000
You should know I'm a big deal in the Resistance.
I'm so glad to hear I was defining art too broadly. What about Thomas Kinkade?
Frankenbuddha - Mar 27, 2008 11:00:22 am PDT #4761 of 10000
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"
I am the One True Authority on What Is Art?
Skippers/skimmers don't get to decide. Neener.
Laga - Mar 27, 2008 11:08:13 am PDT #4762 of 10000
You should know I'm a big deal in the Resistance.
Was the guy even looking at the painting he allegedly painted when he wrote this description?
quaint hansom cabs convey tourists to and fro, and crowds of shoppers and celebrants fill the streets.
OK lots of people don't know what a hansom cab is but I looked and looked and I only see one carriage.
Volans - Mar 27, 2008 11:23:21 am PDT #4763 of 10000
move out and draw fire
What about Thomas Kinkade?
Not Art.
Also Bush's favorite painting? Real borderline, tending towards Not Art.
Skippity/Skimming? Art.
Volans - Mar 27, 2008 11:24:30 am PDT #4764 of 10000
move out and draw fire
Was the guy even looking at the painting he allegedly painted when he wrote this description?
oh hai - invisible hansom cab
Now I want to LOLcat some paintings.
JZ - Mar 27, 2008 2:27:39 pm PDT #4765 of 10000
See? I gave everybody here an opportunity to tell me what a bad person I am and nobody did, because I fuckin' rule.
Just to complicate matters, I'll toss in the fact that I had a relative who loved Precious Moments figurines, but didn't consider them Art. Cute, sweet, precious, adorable, and all sorts of variants on wee and darling, but for all that she was under their spell she didn't at all think of them in the same way she thought about the Monet and Seurat prints she had on her walls.
le nubian - Mar 27, 2008 2:39:09 pm PDT #4766 of 10000
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."
Is Hello Kitty art? Because I consider Precious Moments and Hello Kitty in the same league.