Wrod. He says it with such *passion*
Buffy: I was regrouping. Spike: You were about to be regrouped into separate piles.
'Potential'
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erikaj - Mar 26, 2008 12:12:57 pm PDT #4742 of 10000
Always Anti-fascist!
DavidS - Mar 26, 2008 1:11:31 pm PDT #4743 of 10000
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."
What Is Art other than the fact that one of the factors that hasn't been mentioned yet is the crucial question of *Who* Is Entitled To Define Art, And Why.
Pffft. I totally addressed that. You must've skimmed over my bloviation.
erikaj - Mar 26, 2008 1:18:11 pm PDT #4744 of 10000
Always Anti-fascist!
You're just doing this to get "Captain, my Captain," aren't you?
Steph L. - Mar 26, 2008 1:33:37 pm PDT #4745 of 10000
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine
What Is Art other than the fact that one of the factors that hasn't been mentioned yet is the crucial question of *Who* Is Entitled To Define Art, And Why.
Pffft. I totally addressed that. You must've skimmed over my bloviation.
Did you? I remember you talking about art being defined by the contemporary culture, but I don't remember you talking about who, exactly, within that culture is entitled to define art.
Laga - Mar 26, 2008 1:38:50 pm PDT #4746 of 10000
You should know I'm a big deal in the Resistance.
who, exactly, within that culture is entitled to define art.
the bellwether.
Hayden - Mar 26, 2008 5:00:41 pm PDT #4747 of 10000
aka "The artist formerly known as Corwood Industries."
I'm pretty sure David named me the one entitled to define art. Please feel free to fill out a petition with my people if you have any questions.
Laga - Mar 26, 2008 5:34:04 pm PDT #4748 of 10000
You should know I'm a big deal in the Resistance.
if that means Precious Moments is a no I'm all for it.
Frankenbuddha - Mar 26, 2008 6:15:45 pm PDT #4749 of 10000
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"
I'm pretty sure David named me the one entitled to define art. Please feel free to fill out a petition with my people if you have any questions.
I'm all for a coup, but only because it means we might have to invade Austin and see Corwood in person.
megan walker - Mar 26, 2008 6:40:46 pm PDT #4750 of 10000
"What kind of magical sunshine and lollipop world do you live in? Because you need to be medicated."-SFist
I'm all for a coup, but only because it means we might have to invade Austin and see Corwood in person.
Some of us didn't wait for a coup!
Strega - Mar 26, 2008 7:29:07 pm PDT #4751 of 10000
But don't you have to compare the number of artists total to the number of vets or government inspectors or physicians or guards, to draw a conclusion about the percentage of each who commits suicide?
If I understand what you're asking, the UK study did that; it shows both the suicides as an exact number and as a proportional ratio.
But ideally, sure. There's no massive international database for cause of death by profession; the studies I linked to are the closest I could find, and they're for the population within a particular country over a decade or two (if I remember right). My only point, I think, is that the fact that various health care professionals and blue-collar workers have higher rates suggests to me that 1) the suicide rate might not be the best indicator of mental illness for a group; or 2) people identified as artists are not more prone to mental illness than people in other professions; or 3) -- and this is where my money is -- both.
Writers and Alcohol (and Madness).I stumbled upon that when I was looking for data last night. But this
a 15-year study of 30 creative writers on the faculty of the Iowa Writers' Workshopdid not strike me as a particularly representative sample. Of, well, any population outside the Iowa Writers' Workshop.
I am not arguing that there aren't plenty of tortured artists. But, by virtue of what they do, they're more likely to express how they feel tortured. If those feelings weren't common, but unexpressed, by the non-artsy population, why would we find it meaningful? When I was a sulky teen, I wasn't reading Plath & Parker going, "Gee, I wonder what it's like to feel that way? Oh well, I'm off to skip among the daisies! Tra la, isn't life grand?"
one of the factors that hasn't been mentioned yet is the crucial question of *Who* Is Entitled To Define Art, And Why.
Everyone. That's why this is one of my favorite bullshit topics. It doesn't really matter, so the definitions I disagree violently with are still interesting. (Scola made an axis! Neat.)