Monty: Whaddya mean she ain't my wife? Mal: She ain't your wife... cause she's married to me.

'Trash'


Buffista Movies 6: lies and videotape  

A place to talk about movies--old and new, good and bad, high art and high cheese. It's the place to place your kittens on the award winners, gossip about upcoming fims and discuss DVD releases and extras. Spoiler policy: White font all plot-related discussion until a movie's been in wide release two weeks, and keep the major HSQ in white font until two weeks after the video/DVD release.


Polter-Cow - Mar 25, 2008 1:01:58 pm PDT #4590 of 10000
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Do you know it when you see it?


megan walker - Mar 25, 2008 1:03:23 pm PDT #4591 of 10000
"What kind of magical sunshine and lollipop world do you live in? Because you need to be medicated."-SFist

And you don't mean porn?


Polter-Cow - Mar 25, 2008 1:05:06 pm PDT #4592 of 10000
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

But I have to say that his Verizon ad makes me laugh.

Hee! Awesome, indeed.


DavidS - Mar 25, 2008 1:08:50 pm PDT #4593 of 10000
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

That conception is a hangover from the Romantics.

Really? Do you want to run a tally on American writers of the 20th century? You don't think you'll come up with a higher tally of suicide, mental illness and alcoholism than the general population? Hemingway, Fitzgerald, Faulkner, Plath, Styron...

Writers who committed suicide is a big list.


DavidS - Mar 25, 2008 1:13:28 pm PDT #4594 of 10000
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

What makes good art good, or bad art bad, is completely subjective.

That's bullshit. First of all, I know you don't believe that because you worked in publishing and made judgment calls about the quality of writing every day. Taste is not the same thing as quality.


Amy - Mar 25, 2008 1:18:01 pm PDT #4595 of 10000
Because books.

Taste is not the same thing as quality.

It's not. There are a lot of things that a lot of people agree are good (even great) art. Beethoven symphonies, Paradise Lost, Shakespeare's plays, the ceiling of the Sistine Chapel.

There are a lot of things most people agree are bad art, like black velvet paintings of Elvis and Precious Moments figurines.

But there's a middle ground, too, where what I think is a publishable novel is *not* a publishable novel to my colleague.

I also think making those decisions, as an editor, was muddied by the issue of commercial value. I acquired a lot of books that weren't great, but were books I knew readers would love. I had to turn down a lot of books I thought were wonderful because there was no (or a not-big-enough) market for them.


Kevin - Mar 25, 2008 2:20:12 pm PDT #4596 of 10000
Never fall in love with somebody you actually love.

Harry Potter got turned down originally.


beekaytee - Mar 25, 2008 2:20:25 pm PDT #4597 of 10000
Compassionately intolerant

Hee! Awesome, indeed.

Thanks for finding that P-C. It cracked me all the way up.

And go you, Micheal Bay, with your self-awareness. Welcome to the cool school of making the most out of the bad opinions of others. Your lab partner is William Shatner.


Frankenbuddha - Mar 25, 2008 3:34:36 pm PDT #4598 of 10000
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

munches contentedly on popcorn


flea - Mar 25, 2008 4:17:41 pm PDT #4599 of 10000
information libertarian

Harry Potter: art? or not art?