Harry Potter got turned down originally.
'Trash'
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Hee! Awesome, indeed.
Thanks for finding that P-C. It cracked me all the way up.
And go you, Micheal Bay, with your self-awareness. Welcome to the cool school of making the most out of the bad opinions of others. Your lab partner is William Shatner.
munches contentedly on popcorn
Harry Potter: art? or not art?
making the most out of the bad opinions of others
I will gladly piss off millions and millions of me if somebody will pay me eleventy gazillion dollars for it.
Movies, books, or both, flea?
Really popcorny convo, but I'm only jumping in to say:
I have the suspicion that any study on the entertainment industry done by someone that calls themselves Dr. Drew is highly suspect.
In mild defense of Dr. Drew, unlike many other people who are semi-famous (and somewhat narcissistic) for having nationally broadcast call-in radio shows and call themselves Dr. Firstname, Dr. Drew is a licensed, practicing psychiatrist.
Don't know that it lends his study any credibility, unless he actually wrote something up to be published in a journal.
Serial to add:
Looking at the article, it sounds like he did publish the study in a peer-reviewed journal.
FWIW, I think Bay's The Island is a piece of trash. I'm not convinced that every movie is art. Art is inherently personal, yes. But it isn't art just because it was created.
I haven't seen every Bay movie, but The Island isn't art. I think "art" is something that is creative, that ultimately will prove influential, that is unique, laudatory. Art isn't everything.
I cannot draw or paint worth 2 damns, but if I paint something tomorrow, it won't be art. It will be an attempt at art. But it won't be art.
my Mom and I keep having this conversation but one thing we can agree on is that art elicits a reaction. The gag reflex counts as a reaction. Therefore Precious Moments is art.
edit: Wikipedia says, "Generally art is a (product of) human activity, made with the intention of stimulating the human senses as well as the human mind; by transmitting emotions and/or ideas. Beyond this description, there is no general agreed-upon definition of art. Art is also able to illustrate abstract thought and its expressions can elicit previously hidden emotions in its audience."