Michael Bay is the Thomas Kinkade of the mindless adrenaline set. I have no opinion on whether this makes him an artist or not.
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Hayden - Mar 25, 2008 8:50:20 am PDT #4531 of 10000
aka "The artist formerly known as Corwood Industries."
Polter-Cow - Mar 25, 2008 8:51:41 am PDT #4532 of 10000
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!
I really liked THE ROCK when it came out, but haven't seen it in years
I still love The Rock. I also liked Bad Boys. I think I thought Armageddon was fine. And The Island was better than I had heard, though flawed. And Transformers was pretty awesome.
Rachael Taylor, who was in Transformers, spoke very well of him at WonderCon. And I recall gaining an appreciation for him after reading an article about him in Entertainment Weekly.
Ah, I think it was this one: "Is Michael Bay the Devil?"
It appears he wouldn't really be offended if you said he wasn't an artist, though.
§ ita § - Mar 25, 2008 8:55:43 am PDT #4533 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Transformers cannot be awesome until someone explains it to me, and no one will explain it to me. Why will no one explain things to me? I just want to understand.
beekaytee - Mar 25, 2008 8:55:57 am PDT #4534 of 10000
Compassionately intolerant
I still love The Rock. I also liked Bad Boys. I think I thought Armageddon was fine. And The Island was better than I had heard, though flawed. And Transformers was pretty awesome.
I'm with P-C on all but the Transformers bit.
I had such a crush on Optimus Prime as a wee thing, I don't think any live action rendering...without that voice could ever do the character justice in my mind. Not Bay's fault. The over the top emotional manipulation of Bumblebee's quartering? I can blame Bay for that.
Miracleman - Mar 25, 2008 8:57:51 am PDT #4535 of 10000
No, I don't think I will - me, quoting Captain Steve Rogers, to all of 2020
Transformers cannot be awesome until someone explains it to me, and no one will explain it to me. Why will no one explain things to me? I just want to understand.
There's these alien robots that turn into cars and trucks and things explode.
What's not to get?
Miracleman - Mar 25, 2008 8:59:53 am PDT #4536 of 10000
No, I don't think I will - me, quoting Captain Steve Rogers, to all of 2020
I don't think any live action rendering...without that voice could ever do the character justice in my mind.
Wait, are you saying that Prime's voice was different from the cartoon to the movie?
Because Peter Cullen did the voice of Prime for both.
Aims - Mar 25, 2008 9:00:58 am PDT #4537 of 10000
Shit's all sorts of different now.
Optimus Prime is Eeyore???
amych - Mar 25, 2008 9:01:42 am PDT #4538 of 10000
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?
Eeyore is Jewish????
Aims - Mar 25, 2008 9:02:52 am PDT #4539 of 10000
Shit's all sorts of different now.
Well hell, I knew he was Jewish. And a grandmother!
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Fred Pete - Mar 25, 2008 9:04:35 am PDT #4540 of 10000
Ann, that's a ferret.
is there such a thing as bad art?
That is, if it's bad, does it count as art?
If so, doesn't that render the label "art" as practically useless?
I'll risk a definition of "art" as "anything created for nonfunctional purposes." By that definition (and I won't say it's definitive), anything that's intended to be nonfunctional and (unintentionally) poorly executed counts as "bad art."