I have a very strong sense that Michael Bay, e.g., is neither a particularly sensitive person nor lacking in social support.
Totally not an artist.
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DavidS - Mar 25, 2008 7:43:03 am PDT #4520 of 10000
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."
Nutty - Mar 25, 2008 8:17:47 am PDT #4521 of 10000
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."
Says who? Where is the central registry of artists? Do they have a secret guild? More secret than the DGA, I mean, of which Bay is presumably a member?
If you define artists only as people who make Earthshattering Works O' Genius, And Suffer Therefrom, then of course you're going to find a correlation of genius with mental suffering. You have literally defined your criteria for artistry to include those attributes!
Frankenbuddha - Mar 25, 2008 8:21:08 am PDT #4522 of 10000
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"
Next hot topic: is there such a thing as bad art?
That is, if it's bad, does it count as art?
If so, doesn't that render the label "art" as practically useless?
sits back and makes popcorn
Miracleman - Mar 25, 2008 8:24:49 am PDT #4523 of 10000
No, I don't think I will - me, quoting Captain Steve Rogers, to all of 2020
I suppose you could say Bay is an Artist in that what he does is artistic in nature...that is, it is not steel-working, it is making magical pictures float in the air on a giant screen.
On the other hand, you could call him a 'hack'...in that what he does makes me want to hack him apart with a machete for the betterment of all mankind.
Nutty - Mar 25, 2008 8:25:28 am PDT #4524 of 10000
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."
Well, there is the Museum of Bad Art, which is in the basement of the Dedham Community Theatre, and appears to define bad art as paintings that have clowns in them. So at least one organization believes that art can be bad and still be art.
You think I am joking about the clown thing, but you are wrong. I have been there!
Polter-Cow - Mar 25, 2008 8:31:06 am PDT #4525 of 10000
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!
I support Michael Bay in all his explosive endeavors.
Miracleman - Mar 25, 2008 8:34:42 am PDT #4526 of 10000
No, I don't think I will - me, quoting Captain Steve Rogers, to all of 2020
I support Michael Bay in all his explosive endeavors.
Sounds like you're sympathizing with him for having intense diarrhea.
Which may be an adequate description of his films. "Explosive diarrhea".
lisah - Mar 25, 2008 8:35:07 am PDT #4527 of 10000
Punishingly Intricate
...that is, it is not steel-working,
I can't believe you're saying steel-working isn't an art!
Frankenbuddha - Mar 25, 2008 8:35:51 am PDT #4528 of 10000
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"
You think I am joking about the clown thing, but you are wrong. I have been there!
I know you're not, as I read an article about it in the Phoenix a few years back, or something very similar to it - did it used to be in Cambridge or something?
Frankenbuddha - Mar 25, 2008 8:38:49 am PDT #4529 of 10000
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"
Which may be an adequate description of his films. "Explosive diarrhea".
I really liked THE ROCK when it came out, but haven't seen it in years, and I suspect it would be retroactively tainted by SMARMAGEDDON among other items in Bay's "oeuvre".