Death is your art. You make it with your hands day after day. That final gasp, that look of peace. And part of you is desperate to know: What's it like? Where does it lead you? And now you see, that's the secret. Not the punch you didn't throw or the kicks you didn't land. She really wanted it. Every Slayer has a death wish. Even you.

Spike ,'Conversations with Dead People'


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Jessica - Mar 24, 2008 6:03:13 am PDT #4481 of 10000
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

I think including 2001 was a joke.


Fred Pete - Mar 24, 2008 6:11:52 am PDT #4482 of 10000
Ann, that's a ferret.

OK. I could go along with that.


beekaytee - Mar 24, 2008 8:59:55 am PDT #4483 of 10000
Compassionately intolerant

I really enjoyed Kinky Boots as well. Chiwetel was amazing. And strikes me as a sane guy, despite his great talent.

He and Jeffery Wright really impress me in that way.


§ ita § - Mar 24, 2008 9:17:50 am PDT #4484 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

And strikes me as a sane guy, despite his great talent.

Surely you're not lending credence to a correlation between insanity and talent?


beekaytee - Mar 24, 2008 9:40:53 am PDT #4485 of 10000
Compassionately intolerant

Surely you're not lending credence to a correlation between insanity and talent?

Sometimes, yeah.

Dali, Van Gogh, Terrence Howard.

Sometimes the very pretty cracker just can't seem to hold onto the cheese.


§ ita § - Mar 24, 2008 9:44:04 am PDT #4486 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Sometimes the very pretty cracker just can't seem to hold onto the cheese.

What about all those crazy people with no talent and all those talented people with no crazy? Causation is romantic and all that, but I don't see the evidence for it.


Miracleman - Mar 24, 2008 9:50:21 am PDT #4487 of 10000
No, I don't think I will - me, quoting Captain Steve Rogers, to all of 2020

Surely you're not lending credence to a correlation between insanity and talent?

Sometimes, yeah.

Dali, Van Gogh, Terrence Howard.

...Buffistas...


lisah - Mar 24, 2008 10:15:22 am PDT #4488 of 10000
Punishingly Intricate

Causation is romantic and all that, but I don't see the evidence for it.

Man, that's a thing that drives ME crazy. See also, great writers must be alcoholics/drug addicts.


§ ita § - Mar 24, 2008 10:27:48 am PDT #4489 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

See also, great writers must be alcoholics/drug addicts.

And the reason I had to stop watching House: "Well, he's a genius, so it's okay if he acts like a complete childish jackass."

I'm not laying this all at your feet, bonny. I just have seen it both far and near, excuses being made, or even people "understanding" that talent must come with a price.

Life comes at a cost. Some of us handle it, some don't. Talent is a separate thing entirely.


lisah - Mar 24, 2008 10:31:55 am PDT #4490 of 10000
Punishingly Intricate

And the reason I had to stop watching House: "Well, he's a genius, so it's okay if he acts like a complete childish jackass."

Hah! That's how I knew I wouldn't cut it in academia! That attitude seemed to be rampant.