Now, this would be the perfect time for a swear word.

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beekaytee - Mar 24, 2008 9:40:53 am PDT #4485 of 10000
Compassionately intolerant

Surely you're not lending credence to a correlation between insanity and talent?

Sometimes, yeah.

Dali, Van Gogh, Terrence Howard.

Sometimes the very pretty cracker just can't seem to hold onto the cheese.


§ ita § - Mar 24, 2008 9:44:04 am PDT #4486 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Sometimes the very pretty cracker just can't seem to hold onto the cheese.

What about all those crazy people with no talent and all those talented people with no crazy? Causation is romantic and all that, but I don't see the evidence for it.


Miracleman - Mar 24, 2008 9:50:21 am PDT #4487 of 10000
No, I don't think I will - me, quoting Captain Steve Rogers, to all of 2020

Surely you're not lending credence to a correlation between insanity and talent?

Sometimes, yeah.

Dali, Van Gogh, Terrence Howard.

...Buffistas...


lisah - Mar 24, 2008 10:15:22 am PDT #4488 of 10000
Punishingly Intricate

Causation is romantic and all that, but I don't see the evidence for it.

Man, that's a thing that drives ME crazy. See also, great writers must be alcoholics/drug addicts.


§ ita § - Mar 24, 2008 10:27:48 am PDT #4489 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

See also, great writers must be alcoholics/drug addicts.

And the reason I had to stop watching House: "Well, he's a genius, so it's okay if he acts like a complete childish jackass."

I'm not laying this all at your feet, bonny. I just have seen it both far and near, excuses being made, or even people "understanding" that talent must come with a price.

Life comes at a cost. Some of us handle it, some don't. Talent is a separate thing entirely.


lisah - Mar 24, 2008 10:31:55 am PDT #4490 of 10000
Punishingly Intricate

And the reason I had to stop watching House: "Well, he's a genius, so it's okay if he acts like a complete childish jackass."

Hah! That's how I knew I wouldn't cut it in academia! That attitude seemed to be rampant.


Fred Pete - Mar 24, 2008 10:34:21 am PDT #4491 of 10000
Ann, that's a ferret.

Nutty - Mar 24, 2008 11:08:32 am PDT #4492 of 10000
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

See, my fed-up point for the crazy/genius thing was A Beautiful Mind. If you're so smart, how come you don't know about all the paranoid schizphrenics who aren't geniuses? Paranoia -- and the inability to regulate leaps of logic -- is not genius; it is paranoia and word-salad! Read a book about functional intelligence some time!

Whew, got that off my chest. See also: my vast and enduring hatred of that dratted movie Camille Claudel.


Kevin - Mar 24, 2008 11:22:04 am PDT #4493 of 10000
Never fall in love with somebody you actually love.

Is there any medical research linking creative talent with mental illness?


Hayden - Mar 24, 2008 11:56:09 am PDT #4494 of 10000
aka "The artist formerly known as Corwood Industries."

Yeah, but it was conducted by a unlikely team of brilliant yet flawed researchers with a childlife capacity for wonder but a bunch of terminal brain tumors in their bipolar heads. The only way the research was ever published was through the machinations of their dedicated-albeit-emotionally-stunted wives and wisecracking magical Negro sidekicks.