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Buffista Movies 6: lies and videotape  

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sumi - Mar 11, 2008 5:24:19 am PDT #4250 of 10000
Art Crawl!!!

The Imaginarium of Doctor Parnassus has started shooting again.


Frankenbuddha - Mar 11, 2008 5:36:13 am PDT #4251 of 10000
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

The Imaginarium of Doctor Parnassus has started shooting again.

Excellent. Also nice to see that Tom Waits is in the cast. I can't remember if I've seen him in anything since Mystery Men.


Steph L. - Mar 11, 2008 6:49:19 pm PDT #4252 of 10000
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

Okay, so I just got around to seeing Atonement tonight.

I'm still mulling it over, but I have one question: when Robbie and the other 2 soldiers are making their way back, and Robbie sees all the dead girls laid out in the meadow, was that a hallucination on his part? Or were there really lots and lots of dead girls in school uniforms laid out in a meadow?


megan walker - Mar 11, 2008 8:24:47 pm PDT #4253 of 10000
"What kind of magical sunshine and lollipop world do you live in? Because you need to be medicated."-SFist

According to the NYorker review, that is a scene in the book, but with one dead girl, so I'd assume it was not supposed to be a hallucination.


Jessica - Mar 12, 2008 4:15:37 am PDT #4254 of 10000
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Well, at that point, we're in FictionLand anyway, so I think it's not so much a hallucination as a...I don't know. A literary device?

It's one of those moments that I think illustrates exactly why this movie was a valiant effort at adaptation, but fails on some very fundamental level to make the transition from page to screen. I can't remember the last time I spend so much of a movie thinking, "Wow, I bet that worked really well in the book," and so little thinking "Wow, this is working really well in this movie."


Amy - Mar 12, 2008 4:33:51 am PDT #4255 of 10000
Because books.

I ... couldn't finish the book. And man, I tried. It's a fabulous story, and I usually like McEwan, but it was so incredibly (read: boringly, self-indulgently) dense and slooooow. I only got about a third of the way through.


Steph L. - Mar 12, 2008 5:27:02 am PDT #4256 of 10000
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

Well, at that point, we're in FictionLand anyway, so I think it's not so much a hallucination as a...I don't know. A literary device?

Oh, yeah. I didn't think about that.

So, anything within the movie that is NOT from Briony's direct POV is probably fiction-within-the-movie?

That makes my head hurt.


Jessica - Mar 12, 2008 5:35:12 am PDT #4257 of 10000
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

anything within the movie that is NOT from Briony's direct POV is probably fiction-within-the-movie?

Everything that happens after Robbie goes to jail is Briony's fictionalized account, IIRC. There are "real" facts sprinkled in, but the story is entirely told from her novel.


Steph L. - Mar 12, 2008 5:36:24 am PDT #4258 of 10000
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

There are "real" facts sprinkled in

Like her becoming a nurse?


lisah - Mar 12, 2008 5:48:37 am PDT #4259 of 10000
Punishingly Intricate

Like her becoming a nurse?

I think that was real. I feel like I read the book as everything past his real death was fictionalized but before that was real. It's been years though and I'd have to reread.