All right, yes, date and shop and hang out and go to school and save the world from unspeakable demons. You know, I wanna do girlie stuff!

Buffy ,'Same Time, Same Place'


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bon bon - Jan 18, 2008 3:23:31 am PST #3389 of 10000
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.

They don't really make it explicit, but if Juno didn't have any feelings about giving up her baby, the movie would lose an awful lot of its conflict. It would be a really weird movie if it was like Juno was giving up some kind of object that meant nothing to her.


sj - Jan 18, 2008 3:32:14 am PST #3390 of 10000
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."

If Juno wasn't very much invested in her baby's future she wouldn't care so much about the parents she chose for him and their marriage. She loved the idea that her baby would be raised by someone who loved music and horror movies, etc., because she cared about how her child would be raised.


Jessica - Jan 18, 2008 3:32:29 am PST #3391 of 10000
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

In the end, the film heartily endorsed the agenda of a return to the bad-old "baby-scoop" days and thus yes, a return the days (if they are indeed over) of women's sexuality being shameful and not within women's own control. And thus yes, a return to the days (if they are indeed over) when abortion was not readily or safely available.

I came away from the movie thinking quite a bit about this, but I'm not sure what I would have liked the movie to have done differently in terms of dealing with it.


Frankenbuddha - Jan 18, 2008 4:43:43 am PST #3392 of 10000
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

I just noticed looking at the ad in the Phoenix that CLOVERFIELD was written by Drew Goddard. Huh.


Nutty - Jan 18, 2008 5:00:45 am PST #3393 of 10000
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

Okay, not that I had any intention of seeing it anyway, but Manohla Dargis's one-sentence review of Cloverfield:

Rarely have I rooted for a monster with such enthusiasm.

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SailAweigh - Jan 18, 2008 5:01:45 am PST #3394 of 10000
Nana korobi, ya oki. (Fall down seven times, stand up eight.) ~Yuzuru Hanyu/Japanese proverb

Interestingly enough, Willie Waffle gave Cloverfield four waffles. High praise. He thought the monster was very well done. Now, I'm curious to see the movie just to weigh in on the monster factor. From what he said, it sounded more like what you don't see of the moster for the most of the movie is what builds the tension and that he didn't find seeing the whole monster a let down. The local morning DJ asked him if it was a King Kong level of believabilty (I'm thinking the Fay Wray version here) and Willie said no, better.


Nutty - Jan 18, 2008 5:05:32 am PST #3395 of 10000
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

I should say, that's the only line in Dargis's review that talks about the monster at all, really. She hated it because she wanted to beat all of the characters to death with a shovel.


Polter-Cow - Jan 18, 2008 5:38:50 am PST #3396 of 10000
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

I just noticed looking at the ad in the Phoenix that CLOVERFIELD was written by Drew Goddard. Huh.

Dude, that's part of why I've been so excited to see it all these months!


tommyrot - Jan 18, 2008 5:56:35 am PST #3397 of 10000
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

I wanna see it, but apparently it has the whole "hand-held-camera-induced nausea" factor. I had to move to the back of the theater for Dancer in the Dark and leave the theater for 5-10 minutes during The Blair Witch Project due to this, so I'm a bit wary....


Dana - Jan 18, 2008 5:59:11 am PST #3398 of 10000
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

That's what I heard, Tommy. I couldn't watch the last half of the second Bourne movie (um, Identity? Conspiracy? Supremacy? Cupidity?), so I figure I'll at least have to wait for this to hit DVD, where I can control the nausea in the privacy of my home.