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Natter 52: Playing with a full deck?  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Nilly - Jul 09, 2007 6:21:34 am PDT #7105 of 10001
Swouncing

I have an Orthodox coworker, and I swear, she bare legs under her skirt the other day. Could that be? I really don't think I've ever seen her withuot stockings before.

Her skirt ended below her knees, though, right?

Only the most strict Orthodox women (what you'd probably call "Hasidic" in English?) wear socks all the time. I don't, for example.

Regardless, the skirt has to be long enough to end below the knees (even when sitting). And then you can go to all sorts of questions regarding how tight it may be, if it's cut a bit (so that it's possible to walk in strides longer than a couple of inches), whether it's OK and where and how high, and so forth. But that's already way more than you asked, right?


Jesse - Jul 09, 2007 6:25:01 am PDT #7106 of 10001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Ah-ha. Yeah, her skirt was below the knees. Maybe I've just never noticed her bare legs before, even when they've been there! She's not Hasidic for sure, but does wear a wig, for example.


Jesse - Jul 09, 2007 6:25:42 am PDT #7107 of 10001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

See, this is what I like -- the coworker and I don't have a relationship where I can go, "Hey, are your legs bare? That's OK for you, religiously??? I had no idea!"


Kathy A - Jul 09, 2007 6:26:26 am PDT #7108 of 10001
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil

Only the most strict Orthodox women (what you'd probably call "Hasidic" in English?) wear socks all the time.

That's interesting. My co-worker wears thick flesh-colored tights all the time (I've never seen her without them), and she also wears either a wig or head covering--since she had her first child, she sticks with the head covering (maybe the kids pull the wig off?).


Trudy Booth - Jul 09, 2007 6:31:25 am PDT #7109 of 10001
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

Nilly! Have SO much fun with your Muppet Show access!!!!


Jessica - Jul 09, 2007 6:32:06 am PDT #7110 of 10001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Even mineral makeup makes me break out (summer, winter...whenever...). I'm just not meant to be made up, apparently. Sigh.


DavidS - Jul 09, 2007 6:44:30 am PDT #7111 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Nilly! Big article on local traffic bottlenecks and recent studies on flow etc..


Tom Scola - Jul 09, 2007 6:47:39 am PDT #7112 of 10001
Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward.

Big article on local traffic bottlenecks

San Francisco needs Random Early Detection queuing.


Nilly - Jul 09, 2007 6:58:08 am PDT #7113 of 10001
Swouncing

Maybe I've just never noticed her bare legs before, even when they've been there!

If she usually wears long skirts (which, here, are practically easier to find lately, because they're somewhat in fashion now, even for non-religious girls), maybe it wasn't easy to notice, either way.

does wear a wig, for example.

I know it's different between Israeli and American Orthodox Jews, but here, the strict married women always cover their heads. A wig vs. a hat/scarf/handkerchief is an issue, though. Ashkenazi women are more likely to wear a wig than Sepharadi women (some of the Sepharadi rabbis say that wigs are not a good head-cover if it's difficult to tell that it's a wig and not the woman's hair), for example.

Also, there was a big mess a couple of years ago regarding the wigs. It turned out that the hair used in making the wigs was cut in India, IIRC, as part of some religious ceremonies there (and then sold to make wigs). Since the hair was cut for religious purposes which seemed to be far from monotheistic, and there's a problem in using materials with such a meaning in a Jewish religious way, a lot of the women threw out their wigs and started using some other hair-covering instead, at least for a time, until they could find wigs which were made from "non problematic" hairs.

don't have a relationship where I can go, "Hey, are your legs bare? That's OK for you, religiously??? I had no idea!"

I absolutely *love* it that you feel comfortable enough with me to ask. I remember, in fact, that you were quite attentive to when I washed my hands before eating and when I didn't, when we were walking around in NYC. I loved it then already!

My co-worker wears thick flesh-colored tights all the time (I've never seen her without them)

Some go even further and wear non-flesh-color stockings, so it will look even less like a bare leg.

since she had her first child, she sticks with the head covering (maybe the kids pull the wig off?).

I don't know of any rules regarding any change in head-covering after giving birth.

Have SO much fun with your Muppet Show access!

Trudy! Thanks! I'm sure I will.

Hec! Thanks for that link. We *did* try to suggest a way to time traffic lights based on our model, just like they said they need, in the article. Nobody listened to us, of course, because what do theoretical physicists know about such practical things. Sigh.


§ ita § - Jul 09, 2007 6:59:42 am PDT #7114 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

this is what I like -- the coworker and I don't have a relationship where I can go, "Hey, are your legs bare? That's OK for you, religiously??? I had no idea!"

You have my workplace attitude. Of course, no one here seems to share it. But as far as things to bitch about go, it's really very low on the list.

I may be growing up.

In sad news the drycleaner stained my favourite dress in all the world. Which I'm wearing right now, at work. Grr.

Hey--anyone have any travel mug recommendations? They're all pretty much the same, right?

In return I will say that using dryer balls with my laundry has resulted in shorter drying times.

If we're trading.