When you look back at this, in the three seconds it'll take you to turn to dust, I think you'll find the mistake was touching my stuff.

Buffy ,'Lessons'


Natter 52: Playing with a full deck?  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Nilly - Jul 09, 2007 6:58:08 am PDT #7113 of 10001
Swouncing

Maybe I've just never noticed her bare legs before, even when they've been there!

If she usually wears long skirts (which, here, are practically easier to find lately, because they're somewhat in fashion now, even for non-religious girls), maybe it wasn't easy to notice, either way.

does wear a wig, for example.

I know it's different between Israeli and American Orthodox Jews, but here, the strict married women always cover their heads. A wig vs. a hat/scarf/handkerchief is an issue, though. Ashkenazi women are more likely to wear a wig than Sepharadi women (some of the Sepharadi rabbis say that wigs are not a good head-cover if it's difficult to tell that it's a wig and not the woman's hair), for example.

Also, there was a big mess a couple of years ago regarding the wigs. It turned out that the hair used in making the wigs was cut in India, IIRC, as part of some religious ceremonies there (and then sold to make wigs). Since the hair was cut for religious purposes which seemed to be far from monotheistic, and there's a problem in using materials with such a meaning in a Jewish religious way, a lot of the women threw out their wigs and started using some other hair-covering instead, at least for a time, until they could find wigs which were made from "non problematic" hairs.

don't have a relationship where I can go, "Hey, are your legs bare? That's OK for you, religiously??? I had no idea!"

I absolutely *love* it that you feel comfortable enough with me to ask. I remember, in fact, that you were quite attentive to when I washed my hands before eating and when I didn't, when we were walking around in NYC. I loved it then already!

My co-worker wears thick flesh-colored tights all the time (I've never seen her without them)

Some go even further and wear non-flesh-color stockings, so it will look even less like a bare leg.

since she had her first child, she sticks with the head covering (maybe the kids pull the wig off?).

I don't know of any rules regarding any change in head-covering after giving birth.

Have SO much fun with your Muppet Show access!

Trudy! Thanks! I'm sure I will.

Hec! Thanks for that link. We *did* try to suggest a way to time traffic lights based on our model, just like they said they need, in the article. Nobody listened to us, of course, because what do theoretical physicists know about such practical things. Sigh.


§ ita § - Jul 09, 2007 6:59:42 am PDT #7114 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

this is what I like -- the coworker and I don't have a relationship where I can go, "Hey, are your legs bare? That's OK for you, religiously??? I had no idea!"

You have my workplace attitude. Of course, no one here seems to share it. But as far as things to bitch about go, it's really very low on the list.

I may be growing up.

In sad news the drycleaner stained my favourite dress in all the world. Which I'm wearing right now, at work. Grr.

Hey--anyone have any travel mug recommendations? They're all pretty much the same, right?

In return I will say that using dryer balls with my laundry has resulted in shorter drying times.

If we're trading.


Miracleman - Jul 09, 2007 7:03:18 am PDT #7115 of 10001
No, I don't think I will - me, quoting Captain Steve Rogers, to all of 2020

We *did* try to suggest a way to time traffic lights based on our model, just like they said they need, in the article. Nobody listened to us, of course, because what do theoretical physicists know about such practical things. Sigh.

"So...wait. Wait. Is this one of those you don't know if my cat's dead or alive until you put it in a wave pool things?"

"What? No, no, it's actually..."

"Does it have to do with the speed of light at sea level?"

"At sea...? No. It's just..."

"Is my car a particle or a photon?"

"I have to talk to the baby now."


tommyrot - Jul 09, 2007 7:04:26 am PDT #7116 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

A while back I saw a web page (I may have linked to it) that had a Java traffic simulation. You could control the traffic density and choose routes that had lane closures, etc. What was fascinating is you could have traffic flowing smoothly, and all of a sudden it would just choke up and cars would be bumper to bumper. I've read about this too - it can happen when a highway is at significantly less than its maximum traffic capacity.


P.M. Marc - Jul 09, 2007 7:06:17 am PDT #7117 of 10001
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Mineral makeup makes me break out in the summer. It's a winter-only thing for me. I prefer Alima to any of the others, FWIW.

Even if they don't have a peach shade.

Usually, I just wear Zia pressed powder these days.

Without having tried it, I seriously doubt it comes close to Seattle's Cafe Flora.

The only time I ate at Cafe Flora, I was seriously underwhelmed. Maybe I was there on a bad day.


Kathy A - Jul 09, 2007 7:06:20 am PDT #7118 of 10001
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil

I don't know of any rules regarding any change in head-covering after giving birth.

It's probably a convenience thing for Roxanna, like a new mother cutting her hair short so she doesn't have to worry about the child pulling on it and so she can wash-n-go in the mornings.

My company has a few Orthodox Jews working here, and they're very accommodating to their religious needs; Roxanna was able to work from home on Fridays long before telecommuting was widely available in this department, so she didn't have to worry about battling the Friday rush hour home before sundown.


Jesse - Jul 09, 2007 7:06:27 am PDT #7119 of 10001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

I absolutely *love* it that you feel comfortable enough with me to ask. I remember, in fact, that you were quite attentive to when I washed my hands before eating and when I didn't, when we were walking around in NYC. I loved it then already!

Heh. Yeah, I'm always fascinated about that kind of thing, and was so glad that you would go into all of it for me! And that thing about the Indian hair is fascinating!


sumi - Jul 09, 2007 7:11:03 am PDT #7120 of 10001
Art Crawl!!!

On the ant/aunt question: I use both. . . . because I am confused.

Ridiculously cute Daily Puppy.


§ ita § - Jul 09, 2007 7:12:37 am PDT #7121 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

This is what oil money can buy. I bet they'll be the first to have flying cars too.


Nilly - Jul 09, 2007 7:14:20 am PDT #7122 of 10001
Swouncing

MM, we never even got that far. It was "we are theoretical phys-" and by the time we finished the word "theoretical", the door was already slammed in out faces, so to speak.

tommy, we use this when we teach the whole subject of traffic to kids.

What was fascinating is you could have traffic flowing smoothly, and all of a sudden it would just choke up and cars would be bumper to bumper. I've read about this too - it can happen when a highway is at significantly less than its maximum traffic capacity.

We explained that, using our model, too!

See, the thing is, if you have what is called a stable state, like the traffic flowing easily and all, but it's above a certain density of cars, the very minor changes in acceleration (really minor, nothing that the driver may even feel), may accumulate and not correct themselves and create a congested state. The solution was only meta-stable, if you want to use "math" words, and it collapsed to the stable one, which is of a jam.

Roxanna was able to work from home on Fridays long before telecommuting was widely available in this department, so she didn't have to worry about battling the Friday rush hour home before sundown.

That can be a huge thing, especially in the winter days, when the sun sets so early, shabbat may start on the early afternoon hours. That's so kind of your company.

I'm always fascinated about that kind of thing, and was so glad that you would go into all of it for me!

I was so thrilled that you didn't only notice, but also tried to make sense of it all. I love explaining this stuff!

And that thing about the Indian hair is fascinating!

It was a huge deal, because a good wig can be really expensive, so throwing them out was a heavy economical burden. And yet, practically nobody protested, once the rabbis issued their decision. It was very impressive.