Funny thing about black and white. You mix it together and you get gray. And it doesn't matter how much white you try and put back in, you're never gonna get anything but gray.

Lilah ,'Destiny'


Natter 52: Playing with a full deck?  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


sarameg - Jul 06, 2007 7:53:49 am PDT #6680 of 10001

This. With the above student, the first question would be "Did you talk to them about the problem?" "Did you let them know they were missing work?" Etc.

Which is why 2 pages of the syllabus end up being a nearly lawyeresque description of policy. It's ridic.

Maybe I'm just way too compliant, but I was always "them's the rules, break 'em, take the consequences." Which I sometimes did, deliberately.


Toddson - Jul 06, 2007 7:53:58 am PDT #6681 of 10001
Friends don't let friends read "Atlas Shrugged"

So these people who require special handling - do you pay them or do their parents pay for babysitting services?


Daisy Jane - Jul 06, 2007 7:54:52 am PDT #6682 of 10001
"This bar smells like kerosene and stripper tears."

I wonder if it's not so much randomly letting kids know there special, but sheilding them from consequences when they fail or things don't go their ways.

Sue, that's terrible. I'm so sorry.

I've had to skip and skim a lot. It's been an...eventful week.


Sophia Brooks - Jul 06, 2007 7:54:58 am PDT #6683 of 10001
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

I, too, thought there was a generation between baby boomers and Gen X (I am definitely Gen X, born in 1973).

Sometimes I think the entitlement in a college setting also comes from the "The customer is always right." thinking, and the marketing thing where you state everything in the positive. I think because people are paying for school, they think they are entitled to A's, but really they are entitled to a good education. Sometimes the higher ups are so scared of parent's being mad at them, or suing, or spreading bad word of mouth that they encourage you to be OK with the grade grubbing. This has happened to me with my costume lab a lot of times. I had to give a B to a student who used to come to class drunk!


meara - Jul 06, 2007 7:55:34 am PDT #6684 of 10001

but I was always "them's the rules, break 'em, take the consequences." Which I sometimes did, deliberately

This! Sometimes you haven't written the paper. And you have to decide if you stay up all night and turn in something crappy, or turn it in the next day and take the letter grade off penalty, or whatever the story is. But one of my roommates was always arranging extensions and shit. Pissed me off. I was like "yes, you've been sick, and yes, you're busy, but...like the rest of us AREN"T?"


sarameg - Jul 06, 2007 7:56:16 am PDT #6685 of 10001

Had to take some managers workshop hooey last week, and were told that the GenY like to be called Millenials. And require, uh, special handling. More guidance, more mentoring, more babysitting, basically. Fun.

Oh my god. Our managers had a similar thing. And I saw an article about it recently. My attitude is fuck'em. Want a job? Want to get paid? Grow a spine and some curiosity and work for it, damnit.

And I say this as a pretty lazy person.


Toddson - Jul 06, 2007 7:56:18 am PDT #6686 of 10001
Friends don't let friends read "Atlas Shrugged"

I've read that some schools are lenient because they're afraid of lawsuits which, even if they win, are expensive and bad PR.


Jesse - Jul 06, 2007 7:59:10 am PDT #6687 of 10001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

For your continued minute-to-minute update of my workday, Big Boss apparently just left! So no need to wait around for anything. Suh-weet.

Because I am entitled to half-day Fridays.


Daisy Jane - Jul 06, 2007 7:59:11 am PDT #6688 of 10001
"This bar smells like kerosene and stripper tears."

I had to give a B to a student who used to come to class drunk!

The fuck?


lori - Jul 06, 2007 7:59:52 am PDT #6689 of 10001

My attitude is fuck'em. Want a job? Want to get paid? Grow a spine and some curiosity and work for it, damnit.

I'm hoping to use this method. We have a particular subset of Millenials here at nerd-central anyway, so I'm hoping the broad theories for all of the Millenials don't really apply.