I had to give a B to a student who used to come to class drunk!

The fuck?

My attitude is fuck'em. Want a job? Want to get paid? Grow a spine and some curiosity and work for it, damnit.

I'm hoping to use this method. We have a particular subset of Millenials here at nerd-central anyway, so I'm hoping the broad theories for all of the Millenials don't really apply.

yeah. I'm getting flack because I'm about helping students, but only if they help themselves. If a student calls and says 'I have this problem", I say "what have you done about it?" if they say nothing, then I say "then you need to do _______. If that doesn't work, come back to me." They have apparently complained that I am not helpful.

> I had to give a B to a student who used to come to class drunk!

The fuck?

He was troubled...and needed to graduate... and I am not even a professor, just a lab instructor. And since my class is a costume lab, there is basically only my word against a student's as to whether or not they did the work to the best of their abilities. I did add a clause to my attendance portion of my grading rubric that noted that one would not be counted as present if they were drunk or high enough not to work

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I did add a clause to my attendance portion of my grading rubric that noted that one would not be counted as present if they were drunk or high enough not to work

Sweet lord.

You know what though? I've had the same problem with adults of all ages. You give them a list of what they need to do, then they call back 3 months later wanting to know why no one's contacted them. You look them up on the computer and say have you done X, Y or Z.

"No, I thought someone would call me to walk me through it."

Dude. You do not need someone to walk you through gathering pay stubs.

The credit thing I understand a bit more, because creditors are scary to deal with. But if you're not gonna deal with that, I'm a little worried about what happens if you fall behind on your house payment.

He was troubled...and needed to graduate... and I am not even a professor, just a lab instructor. And since my class is a costume lab, there is basically only my word against a student's as to whether or not they did the work to the best of their abilities.

Wow. Way to devalue your work.

shakes fists at stupid thoughtless administration.

I'm getting flack because I'm about helping students, but only if they help themselves. If a student calls and says 'I have this problem", I say "what have you done about it?" if they say nothing, then I say "then you need to do _______. If that doesn't work, come back to me." They have apparently complained that I am not helpful.

I was close to many students and they would often come to me for advice. Whenever they had screwed up in a class, I would always tell them to come up with a reasonable solution ahead of time that they could propose to the prof rather than the usual "I did/didn't do X, please help me."

I was born in 1961 and don't feel any connection to Boomers.