Zoe: Don't think it's a good spot, sir. She still has the advantage over us. Mal: Everyone always does. That's what makes us special.

'Serenity'


Natter 52: Playing with a full deck?  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


§ ita § - Jul 02, 2007 10:25:35 am PDT #5972 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I don't count hair as a body part either. Makes a haircut sound like amputation, which is a bit melodramatic.

it is totally possible to be wearing a thong and accidentally catch your trouser/dress material in your buttcrack

Whuhuh? Either I have no idea what you mean or I've been blessed with my thong wearing. Where exactly do you ride public transport (that l is important)?

I'd think it's pretty clear that thongs give less VPL and possibly none. The downside is comfort, and well, that's not my problem if I'm not the one wearing them.


flea - Jul 02, 2007 10:27:53 am PDT #5973 of 10001
information libertarian

But did the kitten have a HUMAN FACE?


Steph L. - Jul 02, 2007 10:29:48 am PDT #5974 of 10001
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

There were under-30 guys swearing they'd lose their erections or want to vomit if they were fooling around with a woman and suddenly she revealed herself to have Hair Down There.

Again, I gotta say -- as long as those guys are totally shorn Down There, and are filled with self-loathing at the very idea of growing hair on their bait and tackle, then their reactions to hairy women are....well, if not *okay* by me, at least proportional, let's say.

Also, John Ruskin notwithstanding, I cry bullshit on the losing-an-erection thing. I don't know any straight guy who, when presented with a naked goolie for his enjoyment, would say "Oh, what's that? Hair? Well, then no, I guess I *won't* have that hot wild sex, after all."

I mean, *seriously.*


DavidS - Jul 02, 2007 10:32:37 am PDT #5975 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

But did the kitten have a HUMAN FACE?

No, it did not. So he's one up on my sister.


Jessica - Jul 02, 2007 10:35:34 am PDT #5976 of 10001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

There were under-30 guys swearing they'd lose their erections or want to vomit if they were fooling around with a woman and suddenly she revealed herself to have Hair Down There.

So by not shaving, women can avoid having sex with immature jackasses? Sounds like a win-win to me...


Nutty - Jul 02, 2007 10:36:27 am PDT #5977 of 10001
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

Well, it's a body part, but it grows. I mean, I cut (and dye) the hair on my head and on my legs, so it ain't that big a jump. Is that like removing an eye? I trim my nails for hygeine and convenience--is that like removing an eye?

You cut the hair on your head, but you don't consider it weird and disgusting that it grows back, right? You don't totally remove the nails at the nail bed, right? You manage those parts of your body, but you don't eradicate them while reciting Latin incantations in hopes that they will never return.

Because you are not crazy.

Whuhuh? Either I have no idea what you mean or I've been blessed with my thong wearing. Where exactly do you ride public transport (that l is important)?

The MBTA has lots of stairs between levels, so the person in front of you on the way up usually has his/her butt in your face. (There is always a queue for stairs. It is a thing.) So here you are, walking up the stairs, and the butt in front of you waggles freely (being bethonged), except for the bit of fabric in the middle that is being caught between the waggling buttcheeks at every step.

I am sure some bethonged people with lucky-hindparts genes, or a lack of body fat, must be able to avoid this problem completely, but anybody with the slightest hint of wafflefanny is going to waggle.


§ ita § - Jul 02, 2007 10:39:56 am PDT #5978 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I am sure some bethonged people with lucky-hindparts genes, or a lack of body fat, must be able to avoid this problem completely, but anybody with the slightest hint of wafflefanny is going to waggle.

I know I live in LA, but that's really nothing I've ever noticed as a consistent problem. Ever. Butts waggle, sure. Clothes diving into the crevice? That's just weird.

And I do my fair share of ass scoping.


Jesse - Jul 02, 2007 10:40:26 am PDT #5979 of 10001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

I can't believe I'm posting this, but: sometimes both my dress and my (non thong) panties end up between my buttcheeks, momentarily.

I don't know any straight guy who, when presented with a naked goolie for his enjoyment, would say "Oh, what's that? Hair? Well, then no, I guess I *won't* have that hot wild sex, after all."

Seriously. My ex was a big pain in the ass about shaved legs, etc., but it's not like he wouldn't do it anyway.

Man, I have literally no ability right now to focus on the work I have got to get done today. It's kind of a problem.


DavidS - Jul 02, 2007 10:40:31 am PDT #5980 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

You cut the hair on your head, but you don't consider it weird and disgusting that it grows back, right? You don't totally remove the nails at the nail bed, right? You manage those parts of your body, but you don't eradicate them while reciting Latin incantations in hopes that they will never return.

C'mon. Many men go completely clean shaven on their faces, and many women prefer that.

It is not a radical and crazy preference in itself. Just when the proponents are rigid and judgmental and prone to hysteria.


Trudy Booth - Jul 02, 2007 10:41:09 am PDT #5981 of 10001
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

There were under-30 guys swearing they'd lose their erections or want to vomit if they were fooling around with a woman and suddenly she revealed herself to have Hair Down There.

Oh lord. Like I'd ever sleep with any of those guys anyway. SURELY that could not be the first sign.

I can see having a pronounced oral sex preference for less or no fuzz... nobody likes that stray hair.