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'Just Rewards (2)'


Natter 52: Playing with a full deck?  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Dana - Jun 28, 2007 6:44:30 am PDT #5220 of 10001
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

I may have to negotiate about salary in my interview today. Ick.


tommyrot - Jun 28, 2007 6:49:13 am PDT #5221 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

I hate negotiations like that too. Which makes me wonder why that is. Maybe it's because in the times I've had to negotiate pay, I've never been able to negotiate from a position of strength. It's almost as if I want to tell them, "I'd really like it if you gave me more money, but I'll take whatever you give me." It'd be better if I could say, "Company X will pay me Y - what will you pay me?"

At least, you know, in buying a car I have the knowledge that I can just walk away from the deal if I don't like it.


Stephanie - Jun 28, 2007 6:53:51 am PDT #5222 of 10001
Trust my rage

I think it's so funny that some people love negotiating and others hate it. I am a hater and thankfully, I've never had to negotiate my salary.


shrift - Jun 28, 2007 6:57:36 am PDT #5223 of 10001
"You can't put a price on the joy of not giving a shit." -Zenkitty

I have the dumb, and I'm trying to unsnarl at least two nasty problems. As a result, I am making stupid mistakes that are generating even more work for myself. Whee.


megan walker - Jun 28, 2007 7:00:32 am PDT #5224 of 10001
"What kind of magical sunshine and lollipop world do you live in? Because you need to be medicated."-SFist

I think that what really makes me angry about this is that these inquiries, whether intentional or not, seem to endow the asker with a sense of entitlement that in general, tends to annoy me about students. It could be that they just don't know how to speak/write, but sometimes they just seem so huffy about have to actually explain themselves.

This is one of the main reasons I left academia. The sense of entitlement combined with a complete lack of independence/self reliance is a killer combination.


Trudy Booth - Jun 28, 2007 7:02:17 am PDT #5225 of 10001
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

What's the new gig, Megan? I just assumed you were being professorly!


Dana - Jun 28, 2007 7:03:01 am PDT #5226 of 10001
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

Maybe it's because in the times I've had to negotiate pay, I've never been able to negotiate from a position of strength.

Yeah. My husband had to remind me that I am actually negotiating from a position of strength. I have nearly ten years of experience doing this, my current earnings are completely in line with what salary surveys I can find, and if they can't pay me what I'm worth, I can stick with contract work.

But it's still icky. It'll probably be one of those situation where I psych myself up about it and salary doesn't even come up today.


megan walker - Jun 28, 2007 7:06:25 am PDT #5227 of 10001
"What kind of magical sunshine and lollipop world do you live in? Because you need to be medicated."-SFist

What's the new gig, Megan? I just assumed you were being professorly!

No, I'm working for The Man now (editing French and Italian textbooks).


Trudy Booth - Jun 28, 2007 7:13:19 am PDT #5228 of 10001
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

Just winging it on the Italian?


Steph L. - Jun 28, 2007 7:21:53 am PDT #5229 of 10001
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

but would "slingshot" around the moon to head back to Earth.

Y'know, I'ma learn from John Crichton's mistake and just take a pass on this one.