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§ ita § - Jul 06, 2003 12:48:42 pm PDT #4269 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

And that only works if you're looking for a VIP post. If it was fic or funny or anything else that someone just e-mailed you, you'd be SOL.


Jon B. - Jul 06, 2003 1:50:15 pm PDT #4270 of 10000
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

Except for the part where a newcomer may not know to go to Nillytown for a quick link.

Was that a response to me? When I say "leave things as they are", I'm assuming that the outside place is already providing a direct link. I'm saying that redirecting to the front page can be bad for exactly your reason (among others), Jesse.


Jesse - Jul 06, 2003 4:26:23 pm PDT #4271 of 10000
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Yeah, that. I don't know what the heck I thought I was "responding" to. Heh.

My position: directing links to the front page only makes sense if we let people know where to find what they're looking for. So then, what's the point of doing it.


Jon B. - Jul 06, 2003 5:17:48 pm PDT #4272 of 10000
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

Also -- about the front page -- it also hits the database (to get the list of threads). It's not clear to me that that's any less resource intensive than grabbing ten posts from a specific thread (i.e. what linking directly to a post does).


Elena - Jul 06, 2003 5:25:02 pm PDT #4273 of 10000
Thanks for all the fish.

I've got a question. When I hit a thread I see 50 posts, because that's how I have my preferences set (I am usually catching up). When someone who isn't registered checks a thread how many posts do they see? And does the number of posts per page have an effect on resources?


Jon B. - Jul 06, 2003 5:28:24 pm PDT #4274 of 10000
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

When someone who isn't registered checks a thread how many posts do they see?

ten.


DXMachina - Jul 06, 2003 5:28:42 pm PDT #4275 of 10000
You always do this. We get tipsy, and you take advantage of my love of the scientific method.

The default is ten posts per page.


§ ita § - Jul 06, 2003 6:27:57 pm PDT #4276 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

And does the number of posts per page have an effect on resources?

Yes -- the more pages displayed at once, the harder the hit. However, if the person wanted to view 20 posts, it'd be less intensive to see them all at once, rather than two page loads.


Elena - Jul 06, 2003 6:53:54 pm PDT #4277 of 10000
Thanks for all the fish.

So by having my preference set at 50 posts per page I'm not taxing the system more than I would be if I had it at 10?

(edited to indicate that English is, in fact, my first language.)


Cindy - Jul 07, 2003 2:46:37 am PDT #4278 of 10000
Nobody

a) What Elena said. I have mine set at 30, because I thought it would be more helpful, but will set it at any number I'm told to - because I'm just that kind of girl.

b)...

Generally, when some outside place links to a VIP quote, they've already quoted the VIP. People who follow the link will want to read the posts around it for context. If we set up a special page with the VIP quote, most folks will still poke around trying to find the discussion from which it arose. That ends up using more resources, not less. Leaving things as they are may well be the most efficient way of dealing with this.

Yes, what Jon said. Also? What those-who-are-VIP-hounds want, is to be *noticed* by Joss (Tim, the Beagle, Whomever) - so they want to post where J/T/tB/W posted, so that their brilliance, humor, sex appeal, will be apparent, and, based on one post, timed just right - they will Be. Big. Star.

t /jaded

eta...

I don't mean to imply that most folks who follow a link to a VIP post are VIP hounds. Most are regular fans who want to sip from the grail. There's just this starfcker contingent...