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Wolfram - Jul 04, 2003 10:06:03 am PDT #4248 of 10000
Visilurking

So far, there hasn't been anything to worry about for you guys.

Ah. I thought user meant Buffistas member. Please disregard my blatant ignorance.


Kristen - Jul 04, 2003 10:06:59 am PDT #4249 of 10000

Oh, by "user" I meant another account being hosted on the same server.


Allyson - Jul 04, 2003 10:12:50 am PDT #4250 of 10000
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

Is there anything that can be done coding-wise to make search much less of a drain?

Can we convince Joss to post under the name "Bernie McPhisterstein?"


Kristen - Jul 04, 2003 10:19:51 am PDT #4251 of 10000

Well, I think with the search function, it's going to be a trial and error thing. If it goes up and it is a drain, we have the resources now to figure out what specifically is draining.

With the Joss thing, I don't know. The only idea I can come up with is forcing people to the front page instead of direct linking.

Tech folk: Is there a way to do that for just external referrers? So we can still direct link from one thread to another but Whedonesque gets sent to the front page?

ETA: Though I did like the idea of putting Joss's posts on an simple HTML page that people could go to instead.


Allyson - Jul 04, 2003 10:37:19 am PDT #4252 of 10000
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

If it hasn't already been suggested, maybe we can take twenty volunteers to Beta test Search, really run it through a ringer, and see what's the what?

We could maybe have a "VIP Archive" page and simply email the webmasters of Fireflyfans.net and Whedonesque and ask for cooperation in making sure links go to that page.

I was kind of weirded out by the idea of having such an archive (Hey! Look at us! Important folks stop by cuz we da COOLEST!) but I think something small on the right hand side, "Nilly Goes to Hollywood!" for example, would be funnier and help.

I'm a tech moron, and maybe definately overthinking, but if the VIP archive was on a different part of the server than the rest of the site, would that then decrease the chances of outage due to linkage?


DXMachina - Jul 04, 2003 12:27:51 pm PDT #4253 of 10000
You always do this. We get tipsy, and you take advantage of my love of the scientific method.

I think "Nilly goes to Hollywood' is a great idea, both as a thread and in real life. If it's a straight html page, it saves lots of wear and tear on the database.

Is there anything that can be done coding-wise to make search much less of a drain?

I'm pretty sure ita's plan is to set up search so that it only returns some set number of posts at a time, like a normal page view would, rather than returning every single applicable post, which is how it was previously set up. That should be much easier on the server.


Michele T. - Jul 04, 2003 12:54:18 pm PDT #4254 of 10000
with a gleam in my eye, and an almost airtight alibi

I know there were social objections to a VIP page, but when it starts to be a tech issue, those may need to be reconsidered.

ETA: and, for the record, "Nilly Goes to Hollywood" is a f-in' great thread title.


DXMachina - Jul 04, 2003 1:24:46 pm PDT #4255 of 10000
You always do this. We get tipsy, and you take advantage of my love of the scientific method.

I know there were social objections to a VIP page, but when it starts to be a tech issue, those may need to be reconsidered.

We probably do need to consider a combination of somehow blocking external links to specific posts within threads (and I have no idea if that's even possible), along with a static html page of any quotes from ME personnel or Tim. IIRC, the social objections were mostly about wanting to treat any ME personnel who happened to register not as VIPs, but rather as we would any other member of the community, i.e. treat them as friends as opposed to special guest stars. We had always done that with Tim, and it had usually worked pretty well. I don't think we ever actually expected Joss to post here, and for better or worse, every single word Joss utters is of great interest to the Buffy/Angel/Firefly fandom. And if he says it, they will come.


Kristen - Jul 04, 2003 2:03:44 pm PDT #4256 of 10000

blocking external links to specific posts within threads

I don't know if that's doable. I know you can block all direct linking and make everyone go to the main page. I don't know how it works though.


Jon B. - Jul 04, 2003 6:19:09 pm PDT #4257 of 10000
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

If it hasn't already been suggested, maybe we can take twenty volunteers to Beta test Search, really run it through a ringer, and see what's the what?

Didn't we do that before we went live here? I thought we "passed" the stress test?

blocking external links to specific posts within threads

That's pretty easy to do. On showthread.php you check the referring URL and redirect if it's not buffistas.org. But what does it accomplish? Would the redirect use significantly less resources than bringing up a ten post page? Smart folks, once redirected, will just recopy and paste the desired URL and get to where they want in two steps instead of one. That would actually use more resources, not less.