Jayne: That's a good idea. Good idea. Tell us where the stuff's at so I can shoot you. Mal: Point of interest? Offering to shoot us might not work so well as an incentive as you might imagine.

'Out Of Gas'


All Ogle, No Cash -- It's Not Just Annoying, It's Un-American

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Betsy HP - Jul 09, 2003 7:45:19 am PDT #5586 of 9843
If I only had a brain...

The latest coinage of guineas took place in 1813; the sovereign, of the value of 20s., was first issued in 1817.

HUH. A sovereign is a pound, then. Learn something new...

The U.S. definitely minted half-cents. [link]


brenda m - Jul 09, 2003 7:50:07 am PDT #5587 of 9843
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

I'm pretty sure "bits" came from cutting an old Spanish dollar into eight pieces. Which is why eight bits are a dollar

Also the source of "pieces of eight."


sumi - Jul 09, 2003 7:50:45 am PDT #5588 of 9843
Art Crawl!!!

Is the cutting it into pieces thing where they get "Pieces of Eight" from too?


Theodosia - Jul 09, 2003 7:57:37 am PDT #5589 of 9843
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

The Spanish dollar coin was huge -- think much bigger than a quarter or a Suzy B or a Sacajawea. Bigger than the old American silver dollar coin. So the cutting into pieces was much easier than if they'd been dime-sized.


Allan Lang - Jul 09, 2003 9:27:16 am PDT #5590 of 9843
'And on that tragic day, an era came to its inevitable end.' That's all there is.

I know about marks (which didn't exist but were counted). As well as groats (value 4 pence), angels (value 80 pence - which was 6 shillings and 8 pence) , nobles (also 80 pence), rose nobles (120 pence - which would be half a pound - but everybody counted in marks, which were 2/3 of a pound).


Betsy HP - Jul 09, 2003 9:34:29 am PDT #5591 of 9843
If I only had a brain...

WHOA.


sumi - Jul 09, 2003 10:41:13 am PDT #5592 of 9843
Art Crawl!!!

So, the new Doctor Who is animated?


Betsy HP - Jul 09, 2003 10:56:04 am PDT #5593 of 9843
If I only had a brain...

They fired Peter Davison?


meara - Jul 09, 2003 10:58:48 am PDT #5594 of 9843

WOW. Old British money? Confusing as hell. No wonder I could never get it all straight reading old books! (I always did wonder how much a "groat" was...)


billytea - Jul 09, 2003 11:03:53 am PDT #5595 of 9843
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.

They fired Peter Davison?

No, they actually wanted Davison to stay on another year, but he was concerned about becoming typecast. (Apparently he'd received advice from the second doctor, Patrick Troughton, on the matter; though Patrick seems to me the Doctor most keen to reprise his role.)

So after Davison they had Colin Baker and Sylvester McCoy, then Paul McGann for the movie (and some audio work), and apparently a ninth doctor. (Strictly, this is a second 9th doctor. There was also a spoof called The Curse of Fatal Death featuring Rowan Atkinson.)