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All Ogle, No Cash -- It's Not Just Annoying, It's Un-American

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Nutty - Jul 09, 2003 6:12:13 am PDT #5556 of 9843
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

meara, I was reading the money chart in Merriam-Webster, and wondered that myself. I still don't have mastery of pounds/shillings/bob/whatever as the money system was back in Jane Austen's, or Dickens's, day. Actually, I kept getting the sense that there was more than one overlapping money system, since shillings always seemed to divide up with a remainder left over.

Any kind soul care to explicate?


Betsy HP - Jul 09, 2003 6:17:09 am PDT #5557 of 9843
If I only had a brain...

A pound was twenty shillings (a guinea twenty-one), a shilling twelve pence. So you had to do two divisions (L/20 remainder S, S/12 r D) in order to convert a number to pounds, shillings, and pence.

[L = Pounds (librum), S = Shillings, D = Pence (Denarius).]

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Jim - Jul 09, 2003 6:18:26 am PDT #5558 of 9843
Ficht nicht mit Der Raketemensch!

And for conversion to decimal, a shilling is 20 pence.


Theodosia - Jul 09, 2003 6:18:42 am PDT #5559 of 9843
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

IIRC, there was a major movement in the post-Revolution America to adopt anything-but-pounds as a monetary system. (Spanish silver dollars were very popular, as were francs -- but both empires were in major straits at the time. 'Dollars' was settled on as a monetary designation that upset the fewest people.)


Angus G - Jul 09, 2003 6:22:04 am PDT #5560 of 9843
Roguish Laird

Also there are other weird oddities you have to learn. A bob is a shilling, a crown is five shillings (I think?), so half a crown is 2s 6d. A farthing is 1/4 of a penny, and a ha'penny is self-explanatory.

The guinea is the weirdest of the lot though.


Betsy HP - Jul 09, 2003 6:22:15 am PDT #5561 of 9843
If I only had a brain...

And for conversion to decimal, a shilling is 20 pence.

Aaah! My brain!

t explodes


amych - Jul 09, 2003 6:23:16 am PDT #5562 of 9843
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

Any kind soul care to explicate?

It had something to do with Plantagenet Palliser....


Jim - Jul 09, 2003 6:25:18 am PDT #5563 of 9843
Ficht nicht mit Der Raketemensch!

Things I'm glad I was too young to have to deal with - I only know the shillings thing because they were still in circulation when i was a kid. Actually, I'm wrong - 1 shilling=5 new pence


amych - Jul 09, 2003 6:25:49 am PDT #5564 of 9843
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

I thought that a shilling was 5p for purposes of decimal conversion? So still 20 shillings to the pound?


Jim - Jul 09, 2003 6:27:19 am PDT #5565 of 9843
Ficht nicht mit Der Raketemensch!

See my post, amych. I was talking rubbish, mislead because (deep breath) they changed the size of the 5p in the mid-80s, and brought out the 20p. So the 20p is now the size of the old 5p, which was interchangeable with the Shilling.