Geez, thanks, Megan. Now I don't know whether to laugh my ass off or build a bunker.
I'm thinking about buying something very expensive. Maybe an antelope.
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Penny B. - Jul 06, 2003 10:45:52 am PDT #5489 of 9843
Nobody
Megan E. - Jul 06, 2003 10:50:42 am PDT #5490 of 9843
You can come and stay in my bunker if you like.
Holli - Jul 06, 2003 10:50:55 am PDT #5491 of 9843
an overblown libretto and a sumptuous score/ could never contain the contradictions I adore
Would the bunker have room for the rest of the board? If so, I'm all for it-- I can't think of a group of people I'd rather ride out an apocalype with.
And in totally unrelated news, I've come across Aussie Rules football on Channel 98. This may be my new favorite sport, mostly because the uniforms are skimpy and the athletes are hot. Also, the referees wear funny hats.
Fay - Jul 06, 2003 10:52:44 am PDT #5492 of 9843
"Fuck Western ideologically-motivated gender identification!" Sulu gasped, and came.
Sweet merciful heavens, Megan. That is one fucked up site, and no mistake.
Megan E. - Jul 06, 2003 10:54:43 am PDT #5493 of 9843
You can say that again!
Daisy Jane - Jul 06, 2003 1:14:16 pm PDT #5494 of 9843
"This bar smells like kerosene and stripper tears."
Lee - Jul 06, 2003 1:32:53 pm PDT #5495 of 9843
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.
Wow. I always thought Tae Bo was evil, just not, you know, Evil evil.
Betsy HP - Jul 06, 2003 2:01:24 pm PDT #5496 of 9843
If I only had a brain...
Also, IME, the point about genuine refugees is that they are usually fairly attached to their homes, and tend to want to get back there asap.
That kind of assumes there are homes to return to. A lot of people will, rightly, never feel safe in former-Yugoslavia or Rwanda or ... again.
Kassto - Jul 06, 2003 4:53:17 pm PDT #5497 of 9843
`He combed his hair, Put on a shirt that his mother made, And he went on the air...'
Of course people want to get out of their countries for hosts of different reasons. There can be short-term things -- war, famine, natural disaster, oppressive regime -- and they want to go home again straight after. Of course the war, famine, natural disaster or crappy regime, may also be long term things with no end in sight. So you'd probably be thinking long term or forever. Then there's just the poor and downtrodden -- the poor seething masses who got out of Europe in the 19th century and populated places like the States because there was space and freedom and opportunity they could never have at home.
And of course they were wanted at the receiving end as cheap labour or as bodies to settle great open empty spaces.And even if they were exploited, they had the hope that their children would have a better life and an education and generally they did. Some wanted to do some exploiting themselves if they had the chance.
Fiona - Jul 06, 2003 11:14:34 pm PDT #5498 of 9843
Also, IME, the point about genuine refugees is that they are usually fairly attached to their homes, and tend to want to get back there asap.
That kind of assumes there are homes to return to.
Yes, sorry. I should have said "homelands".
Kassto - exactly. That's what I mean - there are thousands if not millions of reasons why people become immigrants, short or long-term. Yet the discussion around immigration is hopelessly reductive.
For a while, we had a cleaning lady who was from Croatia. She was terribly sentimental about the place, tears would spring to her eyes whenever she talked about it. But when she had to go back (and I do mean had to - once the war was over, she no longer had the right to stay in Germany), she didn't want to go. It's complicated.