Angel: He is dead. Technically, he's undead. It's a zombie. Connor: What's a zombie? Angel: It's an undead thing. Connor: Like you? Angel: No, zombies are slow-moving, dimwitted things that crave human flesh. Connor: Like you. Angel: No! It's different. Trust me.

'Destiny'


All Ogle, No Cash -- It's Not Just Annoying, It's Un-American

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§ ita § - Jun 16, 2003 7:59:10 pm PDT #5135 of 9843
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I've always wanted to write that

Since you are agreeing with me, I'm in a difficult position.

Who was never the SLIGHTEST bit presumptuous or bratty.

Tell me Kennedy's upside again? I don't know if you're catching up in NAFDA Buffy, but I've been incredibly vocal about Buffy's S7 attitude, and how I didn't like it -- she, however, is the title character, who's done stuff, and holds my attention for that very reason. Kennedy? Has done nothing. I have no reason to pay attention to her, unless she's funny, right, heroic, something.


Trudy Booth - Jun 16, 2003 8:04:56 pm PDT #5136 of 9843
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

Oh yeah, totally unlike, say, BUFFY! Who was never the SLIGHTEST bit presumptuous or bratty.

Duuuude-- she's the chosen one.

Kennedy? Has done nothing.

Except Willow.


Angus G - Jun 16, 2003 8:09:53 pm PDT #5137 of 9843
Roguish Laird

No, I meant more that Season 1/2 Buffy was presumptuous and bratty, and we all liked it then, didn't we? Point taken, though, she was saving the world and stuff too. It just seems strange that people are wanting characters to be all respectful and know their place. Because wouldn't that just be really boring?

I don't really know why I like her though, I guess I just think she has a certain charisma and sexiness. And I like the fact that they have a dyke who's not all mystical.


Trudy Booth - Jun 16, 2003 8:13:25 pm PDT #5138 of 9843
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

It was nice to have an earthling dyke.


§ ita § - Jun 16, 2003 8:36:33 pm PDT #5139 of 9843
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Buffy was always the slayer. Buffy also demonstrated a sympathetic side -- she had a vulnerability that I didn't immediately want to stick a bayonet through. And she did fight, and she did win, and she grumbled and tried half-heartedly to rebel, and she made bad choices, but she let us see inside she was, more often than not, trying hard.

Kennedy has had no inside. She's just seemed spoilt to the core.

Buffy has never been my favourite of the Scoobs. In fact, it wasn't until S6 that I'd have even said I liked her. But I did get her. I wouldn't have hung out with her, but I did get her, and could see appeal in what she was trying to do.

Kennedy? NSM. Rona's a brat too -- I don't like her as a person I'd have in my life, but I see her narrative purpose, and don't wish her kebabbed.


Emlah - Jun 16, 2003 9:31:27 pm PDT #5140 of 9843
To every idea a shelf...

Okay, I take back the nice things I said about 7. Just noticed those wankers are repeating "Tabula Rasa" tonight but screening a new ep of Angel tomorrow night.

Just broadcast the doggamn shows already, ya fucking mooks!

Hate to be the delurker of bad news, but apparently there are four weeks of Buffy repeats. I'm not sure why exactly, I got it as second-hand news because I'm a total spoiler-phobe. But I got the impression that it's a 'screen the episodes the way the makers intended' thing rather than a 'screw over the Buffy fans yet again' thing.

I had a total Grosse Point Blank moment when I found out. FOUR WEEKS?!? FOUR WEEKS????? FOUR WEEKS!!!! FOOOUUURRR WEEEKKSS??!?!??


Nilly - Jun 16, 2003 9:34:55 pm PDT #5141 of 9843
Swouncing

Welcome, Emlah.


Kassto - Jun 16, 2003 9:36:37 pm PDT #5142 of 9843
`He combed his hair, Put on a shirt that his mother made, And he went on the air...'

Well, in NZ we've been getting season 7 with no breaks at all, just running right through, and I imagine it will be so right to the end. I find it really weird how it gets shown in the US and Oz. It will mean we end up finishing somewhat ahead of our trans-Tasman brethren.


Nilly - Jun 16, 2003 9:43:02 pm PDT #5143 of 9843
Swouncing

I find it really weird how it gets shown in the US and Oz.

It took me forever to realize that in the USA the shows are being around for the whole year, with re-runs in the middle. I could get pretty easily the concept of reruns during the summer, once a season is over, but having reruns in the middle of the season, inter-woven with the new episodes? It's just so different from the way TV works here [Edit: Israel] - they start screening a show at least several months (if not years) after its airing date in the USA (for example, we just got the very first episode of the first season of "Alias"), show the whole season, and then it goes on vacation and something is aired instead until sufficient time has passed and the following season can start being screened. No reruns at all.


Leigh - Jun 16, 2003 9:53:15 pm PDT #5144 of 9843
Nobody

It's just so different from the way TV works here

Different and evil. It'd drive me nuts watching a television season all cropped up like that.

Edited for clarity.