Jayne: What're you gonna tell the others? Mal: About what? Jayne: About why I'm dead. Mal: Hadn't thought about it. Jayne: Make something up. Don't tell 'em what I did.

'Ariel'


All Ogle, No Cash -- It's Not Just Annoying, It's Un-American

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Fay - May 27, 2003 4:19:12 am PDT #4894 of 9843
"Fuck Western ideologically-motivated gender identification!" Sulu gasped, and came.

Is Tipping the Velvet worth watching? Hmm. Well, I haven't read the book. I suspect that if I'd read the book, I'd have been weeping into my beer. As it is - well, it's got some remarkably pretty girls having the Big Gay Sex, which is always fun. And the costumes are nice. But it's not great television, I'm afraid.


Leigh - May 27, 2003 4:35:52 am PDT #4895 of 9843
Nobody

As it is - well, it's got some remarkably pretty girls having the Big Gay Sex, which is always fun. And the costumes are nice

Yum, never enough of that on television. I'm currently watching the BBC adaptation of George Eliot's Daniel Deronda and while lacking in the gay sex department, the pretty people + costumes are quite entrancing, to the point where I can't decide whether it's actually a good show or just distractingly shiny.


Julie - May 27, 2003 4:58:41 am PDT #4896 of 9843

to the point where I can't decide whether it's actually a good show or just distractingly shiny.

I'm voting not good but pretty, Leigh.
For me, it lacks.. heart, I guess is the word.
Too much surface, not enough substance.
(Although, that's probably an indictment of the period, too.)

I'm enjoying the Dickens more.
But I'm just a great big Dickensphile at the best of times.
(And the worst of times :)


Fiona - May 27, 2003 6:36:51 am PDT #4897 of 9843

Paging Jim....

I got the last couple of tapes from Jon today (thanks, Jon!). The only problem: I'm just missing the episodes you're sending me. Have you sent the package out yet? Let me know - thanks.

How frustrating is it to have the Buffy and Angel finales sitting on your desk, lying there gloating, going, "Go on, watch me! Stuff the missing episodes, the lack of continuity! Who cares about character arcs? Watch me, watch me! You know you want to". Very, very frustrating.


Nilly - May 27, 2003 6:46:49 am PDT #4898 of 9843
Swouncing

Oh, Fiona. Of all the spoiler-trials people on this board stood, in all the years of the show, I think this is the hardest.

Maybe give them to somebody for safekeeping until Jim manages to send you his tapes?


Cindy - May 27, 2003 7:01:53 am PDT #4899 of 9843
Nobody

Fiona - do you have a rough of idea of which/how many episodes are missing?


Fiona - May 27, 2003 7:18:22 am PDT #4900 of 9843

Fiona - do you have a rough of idea of which/how many episodes are missing?

Let's see... I've got the last four each of Buffy and Angel, so I'm missing "Lies my Parents..." and "Dirty Girls" (Buffy), and "Salvage" through "Shiny Happy People" (Angel). Lots of Faith, basically.


§ ita § - May 27, 2003 7:22:29 am PDT #4901 of 9843
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Whew! I'm almost all the way through TtV, and I was wanting to smack her something awful.

I'm kinda watching it to have watched it. When I get to the point "Oh, look, more girl on girl action. Yawn." it's not a good thing. It also has some strange visual devices used to indicate strong emotion. Which annoyed.


Jim - May 27, 2003 7:44:11 am PDT #4902 of 9843
Ficht nicht mit Der Raketemensch!

But it does have the glorious cock-cam montage and the line "Oi wan't be buggered!". It's utter tosh, really.


§ ita § - May 27, 2003 7:46:19 am PDT #4903 of 9843
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

The cock cam made me dizzy.

And really -- were there no straight women around? Dayumm.