This is my boat. They're part of my crew. No one's getting left. Best you get used to that.

Mal ,'Ariel'


All Ogle, No Cash -- It's Not Just Annoying, It's Un-American

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Fiona - May 22, 2003 2:53:37 am PDT #4819 of 9843

See, I've managed to avoid most spoilers pretty well this season, and I really prefer it that way. I've had my know-every-episode-backwards-before-I've-seen-them seasons too, but for me, this way is better. If you know where to expect spoilers, they're pretty easy to avoid, which is why it makes me all the more angry when the blurb on a magazine site gets me.


Angus G - May 22, 2003 6:53:20 am PDT #4820 of 9843
Roguish Laird

Thanks so much for the warning Fiona! (Not that I tend to visit Salon much these days but you never know).

t edit And grrrrrr on your behalf!


Holli - May 22, 2003 8:18:17 am PDT #4821 of 9843
an overblown libretto and a sumptuous score/ could never contain the contradictions I adore

Emlah, I think that might have been me.


Betsy HP - May 23, 2003 11:14:14 am PDT #4822 of 9843
If I only had a brain...

The remake of The Italian Job (heresy!) is previewing today. Seth Green is in it, billed below the title. There was an interview with Michael Caine about coming to the U.S. to promote the movie, seeing a poster with a naked woman sitting on the lap of a man with a tommygun, saying "There are no naked women or tommyguns in this movie", and flying right back home again.


Emlah - May 24, 2003 1:10:33 am PDT #4823 of 9843
To every idea a shelf...

Emlah, I think that might have been me.

Thank you Holli. Would it bother you if I quoted you in an essay I'm writing about author ownership versus reader ownership (who, if anyone, 'owns' the ultimate meaning of a text etc.)?


evil jimi - May 24, 2003 5:14:38 am PDT #4824 of 9843
Lurching from one disaster to the next.

Pity Caine didn't do the same thing for the risible remake of Get Carter.

A pic of Seth in the movie.


Holli - May 24, 2003 8:27:28 am PDT #4825 of 9843
an overblown libretto and a sumptuous score/ could never contain the contradictions I adore

Would it bother you if I quoted you in an essay I'm writing about author ownership versus reader ownership (who, if anyone, 'owns' the ultimate meaning of a text etc.)?

Um. Sure, I guess, although I wasn't thinking much beyond the geekiness of us when I said it.


Fay - May 24, 2003 8:11:01 pm PDT #4826 of 9843
"Fuck Western ideologically-motivated gender identification!" Sulu gasped, and came.

Anyone else catch The Eurovision Song Contest?

Some classic entries, from what I could see - I missed the first 12, sadly, but the Israeli entry was pretty damn funny, and Romania was very much in the spirit of Eurovision. Bless 'em. Our entry sucked like the proverbial convention of whores, and I'm glad we didn't get any votes. We didn't deserve any votes. But it was also a great relief when Latvia finally got some. Phew. I was quite happy with Turkey winning, although I was kind of hoping for Belgium. Still, not to worry. Wish I'd seen German and Austria in full, though, because their entries looked hilarious.


Emlah - May 24, 2003 11:50:32 pm PDT #4827 of 9843
To every idea a shelf...

Um. Sure, I guess, although I wasn't thinking much beyond the geekiness of us when I said it.

Oh, I wasn't going to analyse it in a serious, academic way or anything. But it would make a great, light-hearted epigraph.


Fiona - May 25, 2003 1:46:33 am PDT #4828 of 9843

Anyone else catch The Eurovision Song Contest?

We saw teensy little bits, Fay, it was about all I could stomach. Saw the end of the Austrian entry, and then a run through the last six or so, including that Luke-Skywalker-lookalike fey Norwegian chap with the designer mussed-up hairdo. Missed Turkey.

Tell me, is Terry Wogan still hosting in Britain? Only Terry could inject the right note of friendly cynicism that made the whole thing bearable. The German commentary was a triumph of platitudes and pointing out the obvious.

I'm a bit sad that I was so tired and had to go to bed that I missed "Royaume Uni - null pointes", though.

[Edited because my French spelling has deteriorated. I shamefully confess that I still don't know if it's right.]