Sorry, but any movie that gives me leather-panted Denzel on horseback can be forgiven. And the Keanu-oiling scene was good until he started talking.
Kaylee: H-how did you... g-get on...? Early: Strains the mind a bit, don't it? You think you're all alone. Maybe I come down the chimney, Kaylee. Bring presents to the good girls and boys.
'Objects In Space'
All Ogle, No Cash -- It's Not Just Annoying, It's Un-American
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Betsy HP - May 08, 2003 5:42:26 pm PDT #4567 of 9843
If I only had a brain...
Fay - May 08, 2003 5:44:30 pm PDT #4568 of 9843
"Fuck Western ideologically-motivated gender identification!" Sulu gasped, and came.
...someone really, really should write Claudio/Benedick. 'Cause it's canon. Um.
(Not particularly thinking of the movie, yummy though RSL was, with his cheekbones. But I do like that play. It's got irritating bits, but the Beatrice/Benedick stuff is fabulous. Man, I love Beatrice more than words can say. Still, Shakespeare pretty much gave us Beatrice/Benedick already - looking at the play's relationships through the lens of...oh, God. Somebody stop me.)
Betsy HP - May 08, 2003 5:49:15 pm PDT #4569 of 9843
If I only had a brain...
But the thing is, it's anti-slash because one of the big Themes is Benedick's moving on from his immature relationship with the immature Claudio to the mature relationship with Beatrice.
Fay - May 08, 2003 5:53:12 pm PDT #4570 of 9843
"Fuck Western ideologically-motivated gender identification!" Sulu gasped, and came.
But that would be fine. I'd be fine with that. I'm not all about Twu Big Gay Wuv - I just think that, storywise, it would be fun to look at the play's events in the light of the fact that Claudio and Benedick had been together - 'cause it's arguably canonical, but it's also not explored in much detail. It's an interesting complication.
Theodosia - May 08, 2003 6:10:20 pm PDT #4571 of 9843
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"
Yeah, and Beatrice is played by a boy pretending to be a girl (who in the play pretends to be a boy)....
Nilly - May 09, 2003 5:25:23 am PDT #4572 of 9843
Swouncing
A driveby to post a "Buffy" related UnAmerican story: last night my roommate was watching tv and I was half asleep next to her. There is an Israeli humor show (quite a good one, too) that is ending in a few weeks, and they're broadcasting promos for the final 'special collection' shows. I had my eyes closed, and didn't follow what was going on on the tv. Suddenly I realized I know the music they're using, in the promo, as background, but the Hebrew words the announcer used didn't seem to go just right with it, it didn't belong there - it was no other than the end credits for "Once More, With Feeling"! Without the singing "Grr Argh" in the end, but definitely the end credits from the musical.
Now, it was the same channel (and company) that used to broadcast "Buffy" (for the first 3 seasons), and the same company owns the channel (for which you have to pay extra on top of the cable payments, so I don't get it, and this is not a whine-y post, so I'll stop), that shows BtvS 5th season now (no "Angel"). But it was quite a surprise.
And now to work some, then cook, clean, and then rest because it's shabbat. Shabbat Shalom!
[Edit upon reading some posts back and actually trying to take part in the conversation: I really like "Much Ado About Nothing", and not just because I can say to myself, when I return from a bad blind date: "Good Lord, for alliance! Thus goes every one to the world but I, and I am sunburnt; I may sit in a corner and cry heigh-ho for a husband!" and think I may be Beatrice-y for just a couple of lines.]
[Another Edit: 4+5=7+2=9]
andrea l. - May 09, 2003 8:16:25 am PDT #4573 of 9843
Sorry, but any movie that gives me leather-panted Denzel on horseback can be forgiven.
Major wrod.
deborah grabien - May 09, 2003 9:36:28 am PDT #4574 of 9843
It really doesn't matter. It's just an opinion. Don't worry about it. Not worth the hassle.
Sorry, but any movie that gives me leather-panted Denzel on horseback can be forgiven. And the Keanu-oiling scene was good until he started talking.
Leather-panted Denzel on horseback not achieving Emma Thompson. Glhglhglhglh.
I actually had moments of liking Keanu in MAAN. He skulked nicely. But, as has been pointed out? He also spoke. Luckily, since I'm mellow about the comedies, I could just sort of go lalalala and concentrate on Ken, Emma, Denzel, and Miss Beckinsale, who is adorable. Oh, and Michael Keaton, just a weeeeeee bit over the top as Dogberry. Beetlejuice, as written by Shakespeare - yowsa!
Fay - May 09, 2003 9:58:49 am PDT #4575 of 9843
"Fuck Western ideologically-motivated gender identification!" Sulu gasped, and came.
Damn, I'd forgotten that this film gave us the Ben Elton-Michael Keaton combo. Now that was surreal. (Ben Elton v. well known in the UK as stand up comedian in the lefty political commentator/observer of the human condition type, who has also written various books and plays now. But who really was the last person one would have expected to have acting with Ken'n'Em'n'Keaton. In fact, the whole damn film was crammed with unlikely people. As was Branagh's Hamlet, which featured Ken Dodd as Yorrick in flashback. (Ken Dodd being ye olde Music Hall type entertainer.)
t /OT rambling
deborah grabien - May 09, 2003 10:17:04 am PDT #4576 of 9843
It really doesn't matter. It's just an opinion. Don't worry about it. Not worth the hassle.
I like Ben Elton. A lot.
But I lurve Eddie Izzard. Can you see him as Dogberry?