I don't imagine you're telling him anything he doesn't already know -- the magic of an emotional reaction is that it doesn't respond automatically to reason. At least he's not mistaking it for logic and rightness.
Um, well, we listened to aggressively cheerful music sung by people chosen for their ability to dance. Then we ate cookie dough, and talked about boys.
Giles ,'Get It Done'
Spike's Bitches 27: I'm Embarrassed for Our Kind.
[NAFDA] Spike-centric discussion. Lusty, lewd (only occasionally crude), risque (and frisque), bawdy (Oh, lawdy!), flirty ('cuz we're purty), raunchy talk inside. Caveat lector.
§ ita § - Nov 18, 2005 8:03:25 pm PST #5700 of 10003
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Miracleman - Nov 18, 2005 8:11:11 pm PST #5701 of 10003
No, I don't think I will - me, quoting Captain Steve Rogers, to all of 2020
As ita says, these are things I know, John.
Obviously I've touched a nerve with you. So, since I've been using a reasoned approach to describing non-reason, and you're using an entirely emotional approach to addressing your reasoned arguments...mayhaps we should end the discussion. Until such a time when we can both approach it the same way. That is to say...reasonably.
Laura - Nov 18, 2005 8:55:12 pm PST #5702 of 10003
Our wings are not tired.
For me capital punishment = cold blooded murder. Two wrongs do not equal right. I'm comfortable with that. I understand that not all people share my view on the subject.
Burrell - Nov 18, 2005 9:20:44 pm PST #5703 of 10003
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!
Coming late to the conversation, and running off to bed soon anyway, but...
I think there are a lot of people in America who think like MM does. Don't most Americans support the death penalty? And for, as far as I can tell, the same reason. At least many of the people that I know and love would say pretty much the same thing. So although he claims to be a minority voice here, he's actually in the majority.
Pix - Nov 18, 2005 11:48:02 pm PST #5704 of 10003
The status is NOT quo.
I'm all kerfuffled out.
Tea and crumpets. Discuss.
billytea - Nov 18, 2005 11:56:33 pm PST #5705 of 10003
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.
Tea and crumpets. Discuss.
Wait, I get some crumpet? I like this discussion.
Cashmere - Nov 19, 2005 12:26:01 am PST #5706 of 10003
Now tagless for your comfort.
I know lots of people that share MM's opinion. People that I care about and respect. I even understand the emotions that drive those opinions. I don't have to agree with them and I don't for the most part. But I know the issue isn't black and white. It's complex and messy and emotional.
I also know, deep down, that I would want to kill (personally, with my own freakin' hands) anyone that did ANYTHING to my child. Even though I know, intellectually, that that would be wrong.
Kristin, is there clotted cream?
Volans - Nov 19, 2005 1:23:24 am PST #5707 of 10003
move out and draw fire
pours tea
hands around plate of crumpets
gestures towards tray with clotted cream, lemon curd, and jam
In related news, I just made brownies from scratch.
WindSparrow - Nov 19, 2005 2:18:24 am PST #5708 of 10003
Love is stronger than death and harder than sorrow. Those who practice it are fierce like the light of stars traveling eons to pierce the night.
There could be puppies, too.
Cashmere - Nov 19, 2005 2:38:54 am PST #5709 of 10003
Now tagless for your comfort.
In related news, I just made brownies from scratch.
mmmm...brownies.
That reminds me. I need to make something to take to a friend's dinner tonight. I just don't know whether to make a dessert or a side dish.