Every planet has its own weird customs. About a year before we met, I spent six weeks on a moon where the principal form of recreation was juggling geese. My hand to God. Baby geese. Goslings. They were juggled.

Wash ,'Our Mrs. Reynolds'


Buffy and Angel 1: BUFFYNANGLE4EVA!!!!!1!

Is it better the second time around? Or the third? Or tenth? This is the place to come when you have a burning desire to talk about an old episode that was just re-run.


Vortex - May 19, 2005 5:24:22 am PDT #891 of 10633
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

I don't see Xander's Lie as being nearly as bad or unambiguous. It was a grey area act of omission.

this was not an act of omission, it was a deliberate lie. If he had said nothing, that would have been an omission (see, how that definition works there?). He did not choose not to tell her, he deliberately attributed a sentiment that was in direct opposition to what he knew Willow would have said in this situation.


Ailleann - May 19, 2005 5:34:54 am PDT #892 of 10633
vanguard of the socialist Hollywood liberal homosexualist agenda

I agree with Raquel on Background!Xander. It wasn't until his unfortunate eye injury (which still strikes me as very OMGWTF!, even now) that he was even getting much plot attention (IIRC). Then as we were rushing toward the end, he started to be involved in a real way again.


beathen - May 19, 2005 7:04:47 am PDT #893 of 10633
Sure I went over to the Dark Side, but just to pick up a few things.

It wasn't until his unfortunate eye injury (which still strikes me as very OMGWTF!, even now) that he was even getting much plot attention (IIRC).

This is very evident in Conversations with Dead People - he wasn't in the episode because he'd never really lost anyone very dear to him.


Connie Neil - May 19, 2005 7:10:04 am PDT #894 of 10633
brillig

he wasn't in the episode because he'd never really lost anyone very dear to him.

Jesse. Poor, forgotten Jesse.


Matt the Bruins fan - May 19, 2005 7:12:13 am PDT #895 of 10633
Oh honey, the mentally unwell people have been in the fanbase since Game Changers was Stucky fanfiction on the internet. The calls have been coming from inside the house the whole time!

They so should have had the first appear to him as Jesse. Or Buffy.


Frankenbuddha - May 19, 2005 7:15:01 am PDT #896 of 10633
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

They so should have had the first appear to him as Jesse. Or Buffy

wrod, since it was about a year too early for it to be Cordelia.


Connie Neil - May 19, 2005 7:16:12 am PDT #897 of 10633
brillig

I was so praying for First!Buffy to wander around and sow confusion.


Matt the Bruins fan - May 19, 2005 7:18:27 am PDT #898 of 10633
Oh honey, the mentally unwell people have been in the fanbase since Game Changers was Stucky fanfiction on the internet. The calls have been coming from inside the house the whole time!

I still seethe at the waste of not having the First appear as Buffy to any of the Scoobies until it did so just to taunt her at the very end. It only used that extremely effective tactic on Spike.

Then again, I really wanted a reveal that that wasn't actually Angel in the last 2 episodes. Can you imagine the look on Buffy's face if she'd run to hug him and then passed right through?


Connie Neil - May 19, 2005 7:33:23 am PDT #899 of 10633
brillig

I really wanted a reveal that that wasn't actually Angel in the last 2 episodes.

Stupid studio conflicts, it should have been Angelus tormenting Spike, not Dru. That would have been sweet.


Matt the Bruins fan - May 19, 2005 7:37:28 am PDT #900 of 10633
Oh honey, the mentally unwell people have been in the fanbase since Game Changers was Stucky fanfiction on the internet. The calls have been coming from inside the house the whole time!

I don't know, I think Drusilla is the more important figure of the two to Spike. Angelus definitely should have been in that morphing sequence in "Lessons." Though if we go by best villains of a season rather than most dominant in the arc, it should have been a Gentleman rather than Adam for Season 4 as well. Which would have put a crimp in the First's season premiere monologue.