Well, we may not have parted on the best of terms. I realize certain words were exchanged. Also, certain... bullets. But that's air through the engine. It's past. We're business people.

Mal ,'Serenity'


Buffy and Angel 1: BUFFYNANGLE4EVA!!!!!1!

Is it better the second time around? Or the third? Or tenth? This is the place to come when you have a burning desire to talk about an old episode that was just re-run.


-t - Jan 21, 2026 1:12:12 pm PST #10609 of 10629
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

A suggested that Xander and Buffy should just swap SOs - Xander is way more impressed by Riley being the Bestest Most Manly Man Ever than Buffy is, and Riley would for sure be happier with someone who really appreciates that he shows up early so he gets to be Cowboy Guy. And Anya fits in perfectly with Buffy's type of "used to be evil and is now just awkward" so everybody wins

Genius


Matt the Bruins fan - Jan 21, 2026 1:26:10 pm PST #10610 of 10629
Oh honey, the mentally unwell people have been in the fanbase since Game Changers was Stucky fanfiction on the internet. The calls have been coming from inside the house the whole time!

I think I like this better than the alternate ending for As You Were that was proposed in these parts back in the day.


Steph L. - Jan 21, 2026 3:40:14 pm PST #10611 of 10629
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

The HSQ of Drusilla returning to re-vamp Darla holds up SO WELL, as does Angel letting a bunch of lawyers die in a wine cellar. Angel S2 you guys. It's so good.

That's the truth.


Trudy Booth - Jan 22, 2026 7:08:58 am PST #10612 of 10629
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

(Before Riley left in the helicopter, A suggested that Xander and Buffy should just swap SOs - Xander is way more impressed by Riley being the Bestest Most Manly Man Ever than Buffy is, and Riley would for sure be happier with someone who really appreciates that he shows up early so he gets to be Cowboy Guy. And Anya fits in perfectly with Buffy's type of "used to be evil and is now just awkward" so everybody wins.)

You must be so. proud. Like, could you ever have a parental doubt again? Permanent pride.


Jessica - Feb 01, 2026 8:41:02 am PST #10613 of 10629
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

I've been remiss in my rewatch-reporting duties!

Last night was Spiral, which remains as much of a hot mess as it ever was. There's just so much heavy lifting this ep has to do to move the plot into the endgame that it doesn't at all function as a standalone hour of television.

The Body and Forever were both devastating, which, of course they were. Aeryn commented more than once this season that they wanted to go back to when the Scoobies were dealing with supernatural/metaphorical problems, and....yeah.

Crush is a difficult ep, knowing what comes later in the Spuffy timeline but Aeryn was mostly sad that this was Dru's last appearance. (Extremely valid reaction, Dru is awesome and deserves as much screentime as she wants.)

Intervention! Buffybot! "Oh look, it's Spike! And he's wearing a coat!" "The who whatting how with HUH??" etc etc. Still hilarious, no notes.


Jessica - Feb 01, 2026 8:48:08 am PST #10614 of 10629
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

AtS - Beige!Angel has recovered and the gang has traveled to Pylea.

When we were looking ahead at episode titles from mid-season, Aeryn's comment was "Ooh, reprise. That's when you repeat a song from earlier in the musical with perhaps some slight changes" and I told them to remember that because it was about to be EXTREMELY RELEVANT. (See also: Epiphany aka the opposite of Innocence.)

A was disappointed in Harmony joining the pyramid scheme (because it meant she wouldn't be sticking around in the cast) for about three seconds and then said "But no, of course Harmony immediately joined the vampire cult."

The back half of S2 is my favorite phase of the Angel/Cordy friendship, and I'm pre-emptively annoyed because I know Future Show is going to RUIN IT.


Matt the Bruins fan - Feb 01, 2026 4:28:47 pm PST #10615 of 10629
Oh honey, the mentally unwell people have been in the fanbase since Game Changers was Stucky fanfiction on the internet. The calls have been coming from inside the house the whole time!

I'm still salty about that almost 24 years later.


Jessica - Feb 01, 2026 5:43:18 pm PST #10616 of 10629
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

A is sure that Lorne's not dead because "I think he gets added to the main credits at some point and you can't be in the main cast if you're dead."

Normally this would be airtight TV logic, unfortunately tomorrow night we are going to watch The Gift.


Jessica - Feb 01, 2026 5:45:43 pm PST #10617 of 10629
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

(My counter argument that (a) Buffy died in S1 and she's the title character and (by) technically Angel has been dead this whole time was met with an appropriate amount of teenage skepticism. And they are actually correct about Lorne! But also, tomorrow, The Gift.)


DavidS - Feb 01, 2026 6:12:53 pm PST #10618 of 10629
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

But also, tomorrow, The Gift.

You can tell her that Jacqueline and I met on the night of its airing.