Gunn: The final score can't be rigged. I don't care how many players you grease, that last shot always comes up a question mark. But here's the thing. You never know when you're taking it. It could be when you're duking it out with the Legion of Doom, or just crossing the street deciding where to have brunch. So you just treat it like it was up to you—the world in balance—'cause you never know when it is.

'Underneath'


We're Literary 2: To Read Makes Our Speaking English Good  

There's more to life than watching Buffy the Vampire Slayer! No. Really, there is! Honestly! Here's a place for Buffistas to come and discuss what it is they're reading, their favorite authors and poets. "Geez. Crack a book sometime."


Consuela - Sep 15, 2004 9:42:47 am PDT #5847 of 10002
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

I'm sure, David, although I can't think of any off the top of my head.

Well, except for the pal who's rewriting her epic XF novel as a mainstream thriller, and the stalled space opera on my hard drive whose genesis was a Farscape story.


Nutty - Sep 15, 2004 9:45:06 am PDT #5848 of 10002
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

Ellen Kushner's first novel is extremely fanficcy in style, but in an original universe. I want to say there is at least one other Trek novel/series with the bumpy foreheads filed off, but I can't think of it.


Consuela - Sep 15, 2004 9:50:49 am PDT #5849 of 10002
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

Ellen Kushner's first novel

Swordspoint? Yeah, I call it a slash fairy tale.


Kate P. - Sep 15, 2004 10:01:08 am PDT #5850 of 10002
That's the pain / That cuts a straight line down through the heart / We call it love

Is Swordspoint good, or is it fanficcy in a derogatory way?


Connie Neil - Sep 15, 2004 10:02:06 am PDT #5851 of 10002
brillig

Mmm, Swordspoint. I didn't like the sequel so much. Too much magic, not enough interaction of people. I loved Swordspoint because it was a fantasy without any of the fantasy elements. Except for it being a different world, where anyone can love whoever they want, it could have been an historical novel.


Nutty - Sep 15, 2004 10:03:34 am PDT #5852 of 10002
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

I mean fanficcy in a purely descriptive way. When I read it, I felt like I was reading fanfic, except it was in a universe I'd never heard of.

...I suppose that could be taken derogatorily, but I don't especially mean it that way. I have some issues with the book, but not specifically related to its feeling like fanfic.


Consuela - Sep 15, 2004 10:06:00 am PDT #5853 of 10002
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

Swordspoint is marvelously-well written, but there is a certain element of... oh, I suppose, elevation of the characters-as-characters that you won't find in most fiction. Maybe a little indulgent.

Which is not to say it's not good, it's very good. But I didn't love Richard and wassname enough, and I really did have issues with the sequel.


Kate P. - Sep 15, 2004 10:08:25 am PDT #5854 of 10002
That's the pain / That cuts a straight line down through the heart / We call it love

Hmm. Nutty, I think I know what you mean, although I don't think I could describe that style very well. Anyway, sounds interesting; I'll look it up at the library.


sumi - Sep 15, 2004 10:09:59 am PDT #5855 of 10002
Art Crawl!!!

I enjoy Swordspoint.


Connie Neil - Sep 15, 2004 10:11:04 am PDT #5856 of 10002
brillig

It is a somewhat odd book. There is a fairly intricate plot, but the plot is almost completely driven by what the characters think about each other.

I must confess, I skimmed through the sequel so I could find mention of the characters from Swordspoint. There are some very lovely vignettes about them.