I get confused. I remember everything. I remember too much, and... some of it's made up, and... some of it can't be quantified, and... there's secrets.

River ,'Safe'


Buffy 4: Grr. Arrgh.  

This is where we talk about Buffy the Vampire Slayer! No spoilers though?if you post one by accident, an admin will delete it. This thread is NO LONGER NAFDA. Please don't discuss current Angel events here.


Gleebo - Nov 11, 2003 8:09:26 am PST #6556 of 10001
"God...my brilliance is now becoming a bit of a burden...get back to me." Dr. Cox - Scrubs

No, but I can't wait to bust out my tape now....now do we suspect that Ben and Glory are connected somehow?


Lyra Jane - Nov 11, 2003 8:12:17 am PST #6557 of 10001
Up with the sun

I saw a magazine called New Witch and Barnes & Noble last night.

It had an article about invokng Buffy as a kind of goddess. The writer started by building an alter covered with pictures of Buffy. I didn't read the whole thing, but I was most entertained by the idea.

ETA: And here is the article. Google is a magical thing.


§ ita § - Nov 11, 2003 8:16:29 am PST #6558 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

This is a little weird:

Remember: you aren't dealing with a real person, you're working with the perception of that person. It's vital to keep positive: if you allow any negatives into your perception you weaken the potency of your magick.

Understanding that we are talking characters, I can't think of a single interesting character without a downside. Except Zoe, so far, I guess, if I overlook that I don't think Wash is attractive.


Jessica - Nov 11, 2003 8:19:25 am PST #6559 of 10001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Oh yes, that article. Completely took over my pagan mailing list a few months ago. The main problem with it is that New Witch is a cheap rag written at a second grade level.


Matt the Bruins fan - Nov 11, 2003 8:26:15 am PST #6560 of 10001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Well, I've joked that Buffy has taken the place of religion in my life, but isn't it kind of disrespectful to recommend that sincere practitioners of a legitimate religion make altars and say prayers to a fictional cheerleader?


Lyra Jane - Nov 11, 2003 8:26:52 am PST #6561 of 10001
Up with the sun

Sorry to bring back painful memories if I did, Jess. I hadn't seen it before.

I admit I read it thinking it was goofy, but on a reread it seems like the writer is basically talking about the same thing as those "What Would Jesus Do?" bracelets -- going to your understanding of a higher being for help through your day. It's like Lennon said -- whatever gets you through the night, whether that's saying the rosary or sacrificing pictures of a TV show heroine.

(And FTR, my own spirtual beliefs are of the wishwashy, new-agey, "god is in everything and everything is in god" sort. Sadly, they don't make t-shirts for us.)


erikaj - Nov 11, 2003 8:31:14 am PST #6562 of 10001
Always Anti-fascist!

Dude, when I called Munch my spiritual mentor, I was *kidding*. But I would die before writing an article about it...unless...what do they pay?


Jessica - Nov 11, 2003 8:39:11 am PST #6563 of 10001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

isn't it kind of disrespectful to recommend that sincere practitioners of a legitimate religion make altars and say prayers to a fictional cheerleader?

Well....no. Because, first, it's not about worshipping Buffy, it's about invoking her. And who's to say that the Slayer is a less legitimate aspect of the Goddess to explore than any other, just because the genesis of the idea came from a screenplay?

Frankly, I think the article is badly written and incredibly shallow. But it's coming from a well-intentioned place, and the ideas it's based on aren't stupid.


erikaj - Nov 11, 2003 8:43:41 am PST #6564 of 10001
Always Anti-fascist!

Oh, right. I've done that when I meditate but usually it's Cesar Chavez or Dorothy Parker, or somebody. Although a meditation on faith had some uinintended benefits for me once. I used to have "What would Lenny Briscoe do?" as a tagline back when.


Cindy - Nov 11, 2003 9:46:55 am PST #6565 of 10001
Nobody

Well, I've joked that Buffy has taken the place of religion in my life, but isn't it kind of disrespectful to recommend that sincere practitioners of a legitimate religion make altars and say prayers to a fictional cheerleader?

Jess linked that a while back. I asked a Wiccan Priestess friend about it, on another board. If I recall correctly, she said what you'd be doing, in a case like that, is drawing on the powers the fictional character possesses. Iirc, She was iffy on it herself, for herself, but knew people who did it.