Yeah, I don't buy Giles and Wesley as the only good things the Council has ever produced in several thousand years. I'm sure Quentin Travers is *far* from their only evil malnipulative bastard, but it still seems likely they did quite a bit of good in their way. And regarding the Kendra Slayer method, frankly, there were bound to be plenty of Slayers for whom that would've been a blessing.
You know, my big sister could really beat the crap out of her. I mean, really really.
Dawn ,'Storyteller'
Buffy 4: Grr. Arrgh.
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helentm - Oct 28, 2003 2:01:55 pm PST #6336 of 10001
Religion isn't the cause of wars. It's the excuse. - Christopher Brookmyre
Cindy - Oct 28, 2003 3:05:10 pm PST #6337 of 10001
Nobody
I don't think the council should be viewed as good or bad. It's purpose was good. Some of its methods were good, some were bad. Some watchers were good. Some were bad. I think the Council enjoyed wielding the power the secret-identity-issue gave it over the slayer. I don't think that power was its only motive for keeping the slayer's identity a secret, or even the biggest one. I think was a motive, though.
helentm - Oct 28, 2003 3:45:01 pm PST #6338 of 10001
Religion isn't the cause of wars. It's the excuse. - Christopher Brookmyre
Okay, Cindy is me, but much clearer.
Nutty - Oct 28, 2003 7:28:33 pm PST #6339 of 10001
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."
I'm rather more of an end = means type of person, I think, and the Council's means as we saw them absolutely blew.
Yes, I realize that's sort of like trying to judge all English bureaucrats by the yardstick of James Bond, but at the very least the Council desperately needed a really good publicist who could lie them out of the stupid blunders they committed.
I don't have a problem with the concept of a Watchers' Council; clearly they gathered and preserved a lot of resource that were useful in the fray; but they desperately needed things like an honor code and some modern management techniques if they had any intention of surviving their proteges. Which, they didn't.
Noumenon - Oct 28, 2003 11:17:52 pm PST #6340 of 10001
No other candidate is asking the hard questions, like "Did geophysicists assassinate Jim Henson?" or "Why is there hydrogen in America's water supply?" --defective yeti
I find Charisma Carpenter to be that insanely too-pretty-to-be-human type of pretty
I was just coming on to post about this very thing, because I saw the Charisma Carpenter episode of Baywatch. Way too hot to be a ninth grader. Other than that, she did a pretty good job at playing a high schooler opposite Jeremy Jackson in 1994, when he was 14 and she was 24.
There's a lot of Buffy castmembers on TV lately. My Tivo showed me Alyson Hannigan in My Stepmother is an Alien, Outside the City Limits, Hayley Wagner, Star, and an episode of Roseanne that she was in for about ten seconds, all within two weeks.
sumi - Oct 29, 2003 5:47:34 am PST #6341 of 10001
Art Crawl!!!
Okay, FX Halloween Buffy Marathon lineup (it starts at 7 Eastern):
Teacher's Pet
The Pack
Inca Mummy Girl
Halloween
I Only Have Eyes for You
Go Fish
Dead Man's Party
The Zeppo
Fear, Itself
Buffy vs. Dracula
All the Way
Vortex - Oct 29, 2003 5:55:29 am PST #6342 of 10001
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman
I think the Council enjoyed wielding the power the secret-identity-issue gave it over the slayer. I don't think that power was its only motive for keeping the slayer's identity a secret, or even the biggest one. I think was a motive, though.
exactly.
victor infante - Oct 29, 2003 7:51:14 am PST #6343 of 10001
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.
I think was a motive, though.
Without the Slayer, they're just watching Masterpiece Theater.
Matt the Bruins fan - Oct 29, 2003 8:12:17 am PST #6344 of 10001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand
If they knew about the Angelus-in-reading-glasses-as-host option, they might have opted for it.
sj - Oct 29, 2003 9:07:56 am PST #6345 of 10001
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."
That line-up focuses heavily on Xander.