I'm asking FE now. He says I made him watch F,I first. And, once he found out it wasn't like the movie he was happy, and he liked the dialogue and the storytelling. So, I dunno, a quotable, strong one off?
That's my girl, large and in-charge. Okay, teensy-weensy and in charge.
Gunn ,'Just Rewards (2)'
Buffy 4: Grr. Arrgh.
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Daisy Jane - Aug 18, 2003 4:11:04 pm PDT #4867 of 10001
"This bar smells like kerosene and stripper tears."
Daisy Jane - Aug 18, 2003 4:14:30 pm PDT #4868 of 10001
"This bar smells like kerosene and stripper tears."
What about Lie to Me? Quotable, not too much backstory, plus it makes fun of Vampire wannabes and Angel.
Frankenbuddha - Aug 18, 2003 4:20:22 pm PDT #4869 of 10001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"
Or possibly Halloween and Band Candy.
While Halloween (or Nightmares) is a good starter ep, Band Candy requires to much pre-knowledge.
Personally, I've found that Welcome to the Hellmouth/The Harvest makes one of the best conversion combos. I think it didn't get seen by a whole lot of people until later, but as far as season one goes, they were as strong as any episode.
Angel's not bad either as a starter.
JenP - Aug 18, 2003 4:24:23 pm PDT #4870 of 10001
OK, do ya' think I've been deathmatching too much because I was tempted to just write ...
Go Phases! Choose Phases!
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Matt the Bruins fan - Aug 18, 2003 4:46:15 pm PDT #4871 of 10001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand
"WttH/The Harvest" is pretty good, being the set-up introduction to the series. Personally, I think "Nightmares" and "Lie to Me" are better at giving one a feel for the way the series runs without a lot of backstory being needed. Both start out very creepy, have some good character interactions, and highlight the kind of responsibility Buffy's been chosen for.
DavidS - Aug 18, 2003 5:18:20 pm PDT #4872 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."
Lie to Me is good because it shows the darkness. It's got snark and darkness in abundance. Plus some slick early Joss directorial moves.
smonster - Aug 18, 2003 5:48:35 pm PDT #4873 of 10001
We won’t stop until everyone is gay.
Okay, I think I need to pay closer attention to this discussion. My new roomie, who is a big fan of For Love or Money 2 and Meet My Folks but otherwise a very lovely and intelligent person, just totally dissed buffy and CONFUSED IT WITH SABRINA.
Somebody hold me.
I'm going to ask her what she looks for in a tv show (besides *CRAP) and try and figure something off that.
* and yes, i'm large with the America's Next Top Model love, but still...
Allyson - Aug 18, 2003 7:20:57 pm PDT #4874 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica
Daisy Jane - Aug 18, 2003 7:41:09 pm PDT #4875 of 10001
"This bar smells like kerosene and stripper tears."
That was a good article. I think I'm seeing some of the conflict more clearly now.
I've always been a fan (in as much as I've enjoyed watching him) of Spike. But, I've never understood the need for Buffy to treat him any differently than she did, or the anger at her when she failed to. (The article raised a side note about reaction to Xander's treatment of him, but I think it's pretty well laid out that Xander's a white knight kinda guy and greyness confuses and angers him so I have no idea why they'd be angry that he's not more sympathetic to Spike). But, now I see that it's an interpretation based on personal feelings that I'll never get.
Allyson - Aug 18, 2003 7:52:28 pm PDT #4876 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica
I think that the writer misses an interesting perspective, in that that the Fundie Spikefen choose to completely ignore the negative aspects of the character to the point of hysteria, in order to bolster the point of view that he is a wuv cuddle wuddle poo.
It's a smaller cult of insanity that claims to love Spike, but hate 80% of what makes the character interesting. It's the Mary Sue-ification of Spike that's maddening, and to explore the reasons behind that particular subculture of tin foil hat wearers would be interesting.
I understand redemptionistas, i understand Spuffists, (i don't agree with either, but get where they are coming from) I don't understand Mary Spuke.