Illyria: Wesley's dead. I'm feeling grief for him. I can't seem to control it. I wish to do more violence. Spike: Well, wishes just happen to be horses today.

'Not Fade Away'


Buffy 4: Grr. Arrgh.  

This is where we talk about Buffy the Vampire Slayer! No spoilers though?if you post one by accident, an admin will delete it. This thread is NO LONGER NAFDA. Please don't discuss current Angel events here.


Cass - Aug 13, 2003 3:30:07 am PDT #4493 of 10001
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.

I'm with Rayne:

Lalalala... I can't hear you! ::::picturing Miss Kitty frolicking happily in a field on the way to LA::::


§ ita § - Aug 13, 2003 4:07:00 am PDT #4494 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

its not like it can't cause havoc elsewhere. Anyone have an opinion?

I think a key part of its plan was massing the troops.

The first will never go away, but they severly nipped its ability to mobilise in the bud, and perhaps whatever instability allowed it to get even that far has been taken away by the mass choosing.


Jim - Aug 13, 2003 4:13:22 am PDT #4495 of 10001
Ficht nicht mit Der Raketemensch!

That was my take. Also, closing the Hellmouth majorly weakens the First (even if there is one elsewhere).


Matt the Bruins fan - Aug 13, 2003 4:39:07 am PDT #4496 of 10001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

I wasnt too clear on its plan anyway... when the Turok-han outnumber the human population, it gets to become flesh? So why wasn't it back when demons ruled the earth? And who makes the rules up, anyway?


§ ita § - Aug 13, 2003 4:41:40 am PDT #4497 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

So why wasn't it back when demons ruled the earth?

Because it needed the imbalance that Buffy created?


sumi - Aug 13, 2003 4:43:05 am PDT #4498 of 10001
Art Crawl!!!

Plus -- the First can no longer kill off the Slayer line so easily if all potentials have the power.

BTW Jim -- we had the ASH MI-5 last night -- really good. But I must say that if I were Tom's girlfriend I really wouldn't want him to tell my daughter the truth. I think it could only be dangerous.


Matt the Bruins fan - Aug 13, 2003 4:46:49 am PDT #4499 of 10001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Because it needed the imbalance that Buffy created?

Hm, that is something I hadn't considered—that the imbalance wasn't so much between good and evil, as Buffy's return to the physical realm opening the door for it to come through as well.


Jim - Aug 13, 2003 4:47:29 am PDT #4500 of 10001
Ficht nicht mit Der Raketemensch!

To be honest, I've only seen a few MI5's. The S2 finale, last night, was staggeringly good. I'm kicking myself for not catching it sooner.


§ ita § - Aug 13, 2003 4:48:57 am PDT #4501 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

To be honest, I've only seen a few MI5's.

But Jim, you're our MI5 oracle!

Sorry. But that felt good.


Gleebo - Aug 13, 2003 4:52:26 am PDT #4502 of 10001
"God...my brilliance is now becoming a bit of a burden...get back to me." Dr. Cox - Scrubs

I dont know if this was the thread where I was saying that I was disappointed in the pilot episode of "The O.C."...well I still am, but the 2nd episode more than made up for it. I loved it. It had great snappy writing and very funny stuff. I predict great things for the show. Until they move it to Thursdays.