Joyce: Dawn, you be good. Xander: We will. Just gonna play with some matches, run with scissors, take candy from some guy, I don't know his name.

'Beneath You'


Spike's Bitches 49: As usual, I'm here to help you, and I... are you naked under there?

Spike-centric discussion. Lusty, lewd (only occasionally crude), risqué (and frisqué), bawdy (Oh, lawdy!), flirty ('cuz we're purty), raunchy talk inside. Caveat lector.


Trudy Booth - Oct 22, 2021 9:15:54 am PDT #7685 of 8079
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

I'm pretty freaked out by this set accident.

If people were following the protocols that have been effectively in place for the last nearly-thirty years it shouldn't have been possible.


Steph L. - Oct 22, 2021 9:21:03 am PDT #7686 of 8079
Apparently if you're enough of a power nerd, there is nothing that cannot be flowcharted.

If people were following the protocols that have been effectively in place for the last nearly-thirty years it shouldn't have been possible.

I don't know a ton about production, but even I know enough to say YUP, you are 100% right. I'm honestly wondering if it wasn't an accident. (I'm not blaming Alec Baldwin and saying this was premeditated on his part. Not at all. But he isn't the only person on that set with access to that prop gun.)


Trudy Booth - Oct 22, 2021 9:47:54 am PDT #7687 of 8079
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

In short, the actor and the weapons master are the people who touch it and it's on an active set or is locked up. Actors don't take it to lunch, don't take it to the bathroom, don't lie it down on any not-in-scene surface. If actors go on any sort of break they check it back in with the weapons master. Actors use it in the scene and the weapons master locks it up. Any work a weapons master does on it is in a controlled location.


Dana - Oct 22, 2021 10:01:51 am PDT #7688 of 8079
"I'm useless alone." // "We're all useless alone. It's a good thing you're not alone."

It's so terrible.


Laura - Oct 22, 2021 10:32:53 am PDT #7689 of 8079
Our wings are not tired.

It is horrifying. I'm sure we will find out what went wrong, but mostly I can't and don't want, to imagine what it would be like to accidentally kill someone.


Trudy Booth - Oct 22, 2021 11:21:41 am PDT #7690 of 8079
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

And then if the gun is actually DRAWN there's a whole speech (and you'll hear it about sixty times) where you're told what the gun is, how it will be used, what it can and cannot do... and then its offered to anyone who wants to see it and shine the flashlight through the blocked barrel personally. This happens repeatedly.


Toddson - Oct 22, 2021 11:47:00 am PDT #7691 of 8079
Friends don't let friends read "Atlas Shrugged"

I remember earlier occasions when people were killed on set with prop guns ... even ones with blanks.


Dana - Oct 22, 2021 11:52:24 am PDT #7692 of 8079
"I'm useless alone." // "We're all useless alone. It's a good thing you're not alone."

John Rogers said on Twitter that any time a gun is in use on his set, he puts it up against his hand and fires it before they do the scene.


-t - Oct 22, 2021 2:16:24 pm PDT #7693 of 8079
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

It sounds like that was a bad situation before the shooting.


sj - Oct 22, 2021 2:53:57 pm PDT #7694 of 8079
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."

I was watching a show on conspiracies where they reenacted how Brandon Lee died on set to show how it was possible to be killed with a prop gun filled with blanks. It came down to something being left in the barrel of the gun that shouldn't have been there that was dislodged by the blank, but I don't know enough about guns to remember all to details.