It's my estimation that... every man ever got a statue made of him, was one kind of sumbitch or another.

Mal ,'Jaynestown'


Natter 74: Ready or Not  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, butt kicking, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Sean K - Dec 07, 2015 6:59:06 pm PST #10830 of 30003
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

I was once flying back from somewhere (I don't even remember where), and my flight back stopped through Atlanta airport. Ginger offered to come by and do dinner with me, but I declined because there just wasn't quite enough time in between flights to leave the airport and come back.

But then I got to meet her in DC and again in SF.

When I was confused and angry about Shari getting declined on her first attempt at getting back on a liver transplant list, Ginger was one of two people (Brenda being the other) who reached out to me backchannel and helped me to see the truth -- that Shari was in fact secretly an alcoholic who was drinking herself to death.

It would be a couple more years before I found the wherewithal to actually end the relationship, but I will be forever grateful to both Ginger and Brenda for their stern but gentle help in seeing the ugly truth.


Pix - Dec 07, 2015 7:01:32 pm PST #10831 of 30003
The status is NOT quo.

Fuck. Tonight I will grieve and rage. Tomorrow I will pull my socks up and go about my business as she would, I think, want me to. But fuck.

I will miss you, Ginger.


Liese S. - Dec 07, 2015 7:02:49 pm PST #10832 of 30003
"Faded like the lilac, he thought."

I don't have any socks! I don't even know where my socks are! Argh.


Pix - Dec 07, 2015 7:10:03 pm PST #10833 of 30003
The status is NOT quo.

A little story about tonight. I stopped at my favorite taco shop to grab a burrito for dinner on the way home. A homeless woman was sitting outside and asked if I would buy her a taco. My first (shameful) instinct was to shrug her request off -- so many requests for money here, and I almost didn't register she was asking for food. As soon as I got in line inside, though, I thought about Ginger. Thought about how often she helped, quietly, unobtrusively, never asking anyone for recognition or even thanks. So I bought the woman dinner and a bottled water and gave it to her as I left. And it was nothing, something I should have done anyway. But tonight I did it because of Ginger, and I've made a promise to myself to do it far more often. Just help when I can.


beekaytee - Dec 07, 2015 7:16:02 pm PST #10834 of 30003
Compassionately intolerant

I think reminding myself to pull my socks up will be my mantra now.

I will follow your suit, Pix. It will be a nice way to honor a spirit so honorable.


meara - Dec 07, 2015 7:19:11 pm PST #10835 of 30003

Oh man. So sad, but so glad there are buffistas. Knowing that if anything were to happen to me, it would be like a vigil at my side, albeit in the Vast Series of Tubes in the Sky...


DavidS - Dec 07, 2015 7:22:31 pm PST #10836 of 30003
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Thought about how often she helped, quietly, unobtrusively, never asking anyone for recognition or even thanks. So I bought the woman dinner and a bottled water and gave it to her as I left. And it was nothing, something I should have done anyway. But tonight I did it because of Ginger, and I've made a promise to myself to do it far more often. Just help when I can.

Right. Pull up your socks and help somebody out. Definitely Ginger's way.


beth b - Dec 07, 2015 7:30:12 pm PST #10837 of 30003
oh joy! Oh Rapture ! I have a brain!

I had forgotten. She sent Matt some books .

Ginger was a women of many interests and casually generous.

I aspire to that


Zenkitty - Dec 07, 2015 7:30:50 pm PST #10838 of 30003
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

And thanks to the magic of FB, I've just discovered that one of my friends, whom I've known since college, knew Ginger way back in the 70s, in the Southern sci-fi fandom group. Ginger had said she'd gotten out of fandom after Deep South Con 1978, which was the year before I went to my first con, so we just missed each other. How weird.


Burrell - Dec 07, 2015 7:32:30 pm PST #10839 of 30003
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!

That's a good way to honor Ginger

I am sad and numb. I can't say that I'm relieved that she's no longer in pain, which is something I felt with ita, because I get the feeling that Ginger would rather still be here with us, pain and all. And that breaks my heart.