Sweetie, we're crooks. If everything were right, we'd be in jail.

Wash ,'Serenity'


Natter 74: Ready or Not  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, butt kicking, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Gudanov - Dec 01, 2015 4:48:52 am PST #10089 of 30003
Coding and Sleeping

Syria has me stumped. You've got the Assad supported by Russia and Iran (I believe mostly through working through Hezbollah) on the one side, the moderate Syrian rebels on the other side supported by the United States and Saudi Arabia and Jordan, ISIS on the other other side not really supported by anyone, and the Kurds on the other other other side also supported by the United States.

We want to defeat ISIS, but we don't want to get ground troops involved because that has clusterfuck written all over it in 128pt Helvetica. However the moderate Syrian rebels don't seem interested in fighting ISIS, they want to fight Assad. Assad doesn't seem interested either, he wants to fight the moderate Syrian rebels. Russia doesn't seem interested either, they want to support Assad. Same seems to be true with Iran. The Iraq army outnumbers ISIS massively, but they don't seem especially interested in fighting ISIS either. Meanwhile the Kurds have been fighting ISIS, but our ally, Turkey, wants to fight the Kurds and the Kurds aren't large enough to really deal with ISIS by themselves anyhow. Meanwhile we're bombing ISIS, but that isn't going to be very effective unless we decide to tolerate massive civilian causalities which would probably create a lot more anti-crusader resentment in the region, leading to more terrorism.

Of course that may be the easy part because stability needs to be achieved and the U.S. goal is to establish a pro-western secular democracy by supporting the moderate Syrian rebels who are not cohesive enough to be called something other than the moderate Syrian rebels.

What the hell do you do with that?

I'm starting to think the best answer is to just tell Russia, hey, you want to own this shitshow, you go ahead and own it. We'll just put a fraction of the money we'd spend on military action for humanitarian aid and resettlement of refugees and you guys can be left holding the bag of regrettable middle-east policy.


Tom Scola - Dec 01, 2015 4:57:02 am PST #10090 of 30003
Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward.

There are also the Syrian Turkmen, supported by Turkey against Assad, ISIS AND the Kurds.


Gudanov - Dec 01, 2015 4:59:45 am PST #10091 of 30003
Coding and Sleeping

Oops. Overlooked that other other other other side.


Lee - Dec 01, 2015 5:33:59 am PST #10092 of 30003
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.

I don't think I'm going to make it through a full day of work. My head is trying to kill me.

Ditto, but because people at work are trying to make my head explode


Dana - Dec 01, 2015 5:47:02 am PST #10093 of 30003
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

Jesus, now today is Giving Tuesday? Leave me alone, days of the week!


Jesse - Dec 01, 2015 5:48:25 am PST #10094 of 30003
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

(Nobody tell Dana about tomorrow!)


Gudanov - Dec 01, 2015 5:49:10 am PST #10095 of 30003
Coding and Sleeping

Good luck with your heads sarameg and Lee!

I saw Inside Out and Jurassic World this weekend. Two movies in one weekend is pretty rare for me. Anyhow, I liked Inside Out pretty well, but man Jurassic World was disappointing. It just felt flat. I mean they sucked all the charisma out of Chris Pratt. How do you even do that?


-t - Dec 01, 2015 5:50:02 am PST #10096 of 30003
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Should be Weekend Tuesday.

Oh noes my 3-month calendar has run out of months and I haven't gotten a new one!


Dana - Dec 01, 2015 5:53:16 am PST #10097 of 30003
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

Oh, my god, what is tomorrow? Unless it's Stay in Your Pajamas Day, I'm against it.


Jesse - Dec 01, 2015 5:53:29 am PST #10098 of 30003
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Should be Weekend Tuesday.

Excellent call!