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Natter 71: Someone is wrong on the Internet  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


sj - Dec 15, 2012 6:23:35 am PST #4654 of 30001
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."

{{{{{Pix}}}}} You were one of the first people I thought about when I heard the news. Love and thoughts headed to your friend's friend. I'm so sorry. I am also disgusted by many of the reactions I saw on my FB list yesterday.

ETA: I posted before I saw you say no hugs, but I honestly want to hug all the teachers, parents, and kids I know right now.


JZ - Dec 15, 2012 6:25:59 am PST #4655 of 30001
See? I gave everybody here an opportunity to tell me what a bad person I am and nobody did, because I fuckin' rule.

Oh, Pix, I'm so sorry. My heart goes out to your friend and her colleagues. I can't even imagine the terrible impact of this on such a small, close-knit community. And, ugh, ND's niece and possibly the most ill-timed and ill-directed comment ever.


NoiseDesign - Dec 15, 2012 6:39:56 am PST #4656 of 30001
Our wings are not tired

My niece just parrots all the right wing talking points. More than a little frustrating. Also she's afraid the "foreigner in the whitehouse" (Obama) will take aay her toys (guns).


Kat - Dec 15, 2012 6:58:30 am PST #4657 of 30001
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

Ugh. Pix and ND how aggravating.


Ginger - Dec 15, 2012 7:23:39 am PST #4658 of 30001
"It didn't taste good. It tasted soooo horrible. It tasted like....a vodka martini." - Matilda

I think the psychological harm of making schools have prison-like security is far more harmful that the possibility of the rare crazy person. We see every one of these incidents on a continuous loop for days, making it feel like there are far more such incidents than there really are. Such precautions are not even likely to be effective; any security expert will tell you there's no defense against a person who plans to die in an attack.

The only way arming the teachers could possibly help is if the teachers were required to have been in the military in an active fire zone. Without training and experience, few people can react correctly and fast enough. You might as well say that we need heavily armed kindergarteners.


amyth - Dec 15, 2012 7:28:12 am PST #4659 of 30001
And none of us deserving the cruelty or the grace -- Leonard Cohen

Pix and ND, I'm so sorry.

Stephanie, I'm so frustrated on your behalf.


Pix - Dec 15, 2012 7:30:23 am PST #4660 of 30001
The status is NOT quo.

Exactly, Ginger.


Ginger - Dec 15, 2012 7:32:09 am PST #4661 of 30001
"It didn't taste good. It tasted soooo horrible. It tasted like....a vodka martini." - Matilda

I have a friend whose husband, who was a very well paid physics rockstar, went to court to reduce the amount he paid, claiming he couldn't afford it. He didn't think he could possibly reduce the $2,000+ a month he spent on expensive restaurants. The judge did laugh.


Consuela - Dec 15, 2012 7:37:14 am PST #4662 of 30001
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

He didn't think he could possibly reduce the $2,000+ a month he spent on expensive restaurants.

The fuck?

I used to climb with someone (a kindergarten teacher) whose ex-husband had voluntarily bankrupted himself rather than pay child support. I do not understand this mentality.


P.M. Marc - Dec 15, 2012 7:49:39 am PST #4663 of 30001
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Yeah. That's a mindset I just don't get.

In my harsher moods, I feel that it should be grounds for terminating their parental rights. Don't want to pay your support? Fine. Just don't expect to be recognized as their parent.