Occasionally I'm callous and strange.

Willow ,'The Killer In Me'


Natter 71: Someone is wrong on the Internet  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Consuela - Mar 21, 2013 1:52:46 pm PDT #15587 of 30001
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

My anxiety over his safety is clearly mollified by reading an article by him after the fact--so I am left confused by the definite patriotism of his gratitude.

I think because he's all stressed out about being about to travel overseas for the first time in his life. The man's in his mid-30s and never been anywhere he couldn't communicate in English. And he's going by himself, not as part of an organized thing, or meeting friends or anything.

He would have been okay in Europe, too (an old friend of mine fell ill with toxic shock syndrome on a school trip to Switzerland, got excellent care in Lausanne), but it would have been even more scary than it was here. Or so I read it.


§ ita § - Mar 21, 2013 2:02:17 pm PDT #15588 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I guess first time travelling abroad gives you the shakes if you leave it for a while, but:

It did not escape my mind that in some other place I might have died. This is not chest-thumping or jingoism. It is a fact of my residency.

Is going to confuse me, because there was nothing I understand as American in his rescue. Yes, in some other place he might have died, and that some other place could be anywhere in the US.


Consuela - Mar 21, 2013 2:07:20 pm PDT #15589 of 30001
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

Yes, in some other place he might have died, and that some other place could be anywhere in the US.

Indeed, this is true.

t shrugs I dunno.


Zenkitty - Mar 21, 2013 2:10:50 pm PDT #15590 of 30001
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

He had a very close call and that often leaves people misty-eyed. What I read was gratitude for the kindness of strangers, and the knowledge that in a different time/place he might not have gotten it.


§ ita § - Mar 21, 2013 2:15:25 pm PDT #15591 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

and the knowledge that in a different time/place he might not have gotten it.

Perfectly true. Still don't see what that has to do with the US, though.


Jesse - Mar 21, 2013 2:26:06 pm PDT #15592 of 30001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

I'm willing to bet that 90% of the time (or more) when someone says, "Only in America!" it's not actually true.


§ ita § - Mar 21, 2013 2:33:25 pm PDT #15593 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

So is he that kind of guy? That calls out jingoism and then steps in it anyway?


Matt the Bruins fan - Mar 21, 2013 2:36:57 pm PDT #15594 of 30001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

But if there's a deep-fried twinkie involved, it probably is.


aurelia - Mar 21, 2013 2:38:13 pm PDT #15595 of 30001
All sorrows can be borne if you put them into a story. Tell me a story.

Here's a different kind of train story. [link]


Jesse - Mar 21, 2013 2:48:02 pm PDT #15596 of 30001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

So is he that kind of guy? That calls out jingoism and then steps in it anyway?

I can't speak to Coates specifically, but I think most people could be "that kind of guy" at least on occasion.