You do well to flee, townspeople! I will pillage your lands and dwellings! I will burn your crops and make merry sport with your more attractive daughters! Ha ha ha! Mark my words! Ooh! Ale! I smell delicious ale!

Olaf the Troll ,'Showtime'


Natter 71: Someone is wrong on the Internet  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Jesse - Mar 15, 2013 9:34:42 am PDT #14905 of 30001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Some people need to have children who turn out to be black.

You're joking, but I've watched it happen with grandchildren.


P.M. Marc - Mar 15, 2013 9:36:01 am PDT #14906 of 30001
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Some people need to have children who turn out to be black.

When this has happened, sadly, it hasn't seemed to turn out quite so well.

Of course, the only case I can think of off the top of my head is Sandra Laing. [link]


§ ita § - Mar 15, 2013 9:56:59 am PDT #14907 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

South Africa was and still is an issue bigger than empathy can address. It can barely influence it. Some problems need a bigger stick.


P.M. Marc - Mar 15, 2013 10:00:09 am PDT #14908 of 30001
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

South Africa was and still is an issue bigger than empathy can address. It can barely influence it. Some problems need a bigger stick.

True, that.


Maria - Mar 15, 2013 10:03:00 am PDT #14909 of 30001
Not so nice is that I'm about to ruin a Friday morning for a bunch of people because of a series of unfortunate events and an upset foreign government. - shrift

Strom Thurmond, anyone?

Well, that's more of loved one's death -> existential crisis -> loss of faith. That other people's loved ones dying doesn't provoke an existential crisis in someone is not surprising to me.

Exactly. I'm struggling with this myself, and trying to figure out my faith (if it exists) and how it plays out with religion.


Trudy Booth - Mar 15, 2013 10:14:43 am PDT #14910 of 30001
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

Yeah, it didn't seem to help 'ol Strom much.

Though I've seem the ice shatter any number of times with grandchildren.


-t - Mar 15, 2013 10:19:18 am PDT #14911 of 30001
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Yeah, having been agnostic faith-wise for a good long time but religiously observant (and already reconciled that to my satisfaction) when my existential crisis hit was, I think, easier on me. Not that it was a picnic, but, you know, that particular struggle was not mine.


§ ita § - Mar 15, 2013 10:24:26 am PDT #14912 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Is this the FB algorithm people were talking about: [link] ? I'm not sure what that was referring to.


Connie Neil - Mar 15, 2013 10:28:46 am PDT #14913 of 30001
brillig

People changing and growing is a good thing. It shows it is possible to change, and the very idea of change is alien to some folks. They get used to monolithic thinking, to ideas that are carved in stone, then shades of grey get introduced into their thinking. That's how you convert the hard core, one small paradigm shift at a time.


Maria - Mar 15, 2013 10:38:25 am PDT #14914 of 30001
Not so nice is that I'm about to ruin a Friday morning for a bunch of people because of a series of unfortunate events and an upset foreign government. - shrift

-t, I've been more culturally Catholic than religiously Catholic for a long time, but the last year has pushed me solidly towards the camp of the agnostics. Right now, I'm of the belief that the only person that can do anything about any situation I'm in is myself. What divine intervention?