I've seen honest faces before. They usually come attached to liars.

Willow ,'Conversations with Dead People'


Natter 71: Someone is wrong on the Internet  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Jesse - Mar 13, 2013 3:14:23 pm PDT #14707 of 30001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Popes with birthplaces: [link]


billytea - Mar 13, 2013 3:15:43 pm PDT #14708 of 30001
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.

The first pope wouldn't have been European, right? Probably a few after him, also, maybe?

According to Wikipedia, the last Pope before Francis I to have come from outside Europe was St Gregory III from Syria, elected in 731.


Sophia Brooks - Mar 13, 2013 3:18:51 pm PDT #14709 of 30001
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

I think we need an anti-pope!


Jesse - Mar 13, 2013 3:33:38 pm PDT #14710 of 30001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

So wait, is there any real reason to think he was thinking of Francis of Assisi and not Francis Xavier?


billytea - Mar 13, 2013 3:37:37 pm PDT #14711 of 30001
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.

So wait, is there any real reason to think he was thinking of Francis of Assisi and not Francis Xavier?

According to a couple of sources, he said so explicitly.


-t - Mar 13, 2013 3:38:44 pm PDT #14712 of 30001
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Francis Xavier, afaik, was inspired by Francis of Assisi, so it's not necessarily XOR.

Speaking almost entirely ex cloaca.


Connie Neil - Mar 13, 2013 3:41:03 pm PDT #14713 of 30001
brillig

I adore having somewhere to talk about church minutiae and early history.


Jesse - Mar 13, 2013 3:49:16 pm PDT #14714 of 30001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

According to a couple of sources, he said so explicitly.
Ah, OK.

Francis Xavier, afaik, was inspired by Francis of Assisi, so it's not necessarily XOR.

Well, different orders, less explicit message about shaping up the Church, etc.


-t - Mar 13, 2013 3:50:47 pm PDT #14715 of 30001
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

But he's still a Jesuit if he named himself after Francis of Assisi, yes?


Trudy Booth - Mar 13, 2013 3:53:53 pm PDT #14716 of 30001
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

Hey, you were throwing around the Sekrit Presbyterian Handshake and I wasn't invited! Fie! Fie!

::passes Theodosia tiny cube of white bread and plastic thimble of grape juice::

::proposes formation of Synod-level committee to study and prevent such future exclusions::